The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

Whacko question

This content is protected

USADA in that regard becomes a neutral agency.

With that premise... Who will test Pacman while he is in the Philippines?

 

lol......crazy number of pages right here but yea i guess its a good idea to combine them

 

I'm guessing that a full random blood and urine testing exactly the same with OSDT will be used. It will not be called officially as OSDT since Olympic rules will not be adapted for we are dealing with professional boxers here, not amateurs.

Most probably NSAC (or any Athletic Commission who has jurisdiction of the fight) will supervise the full random blood and urine testing and not necessarily be the USADA.

 

i think the solution is for NSAC or some other bodies to test using WADA guidelines. this is simple, floyd does not trust pac so he wants OSDT, meanwhile arum doesn't trust tygart and his connection to GBP and floyd so how about using other agency.

 

This is from the interview;

Senior WADA manager Terence O'Rourke after being asked if it would makes sense if a boxing commission shoul be involved in the testing;

"Absolutely not! No, that is not the norm. The organization[boxing commission] that I believe this fight is going to be under, they are no compliant. They are not signatories of the World Anti-Doping Code, so we have no way of monitoring what they do."

The fact of the matter is, Arum said he trusted WADA to handle it and now an official from WADA is going on record recommending that the USADA should handle the testing.

 

then if that's the case they should move to other bodies sanctioned by WADA and compliant. i don't know what's the problem with finding other organization doing this. this is just a simple request and if arum feels that tygart and GBP/floyd had some connections before, then it's best to find another body just to make the fight.

 

I thought Floyd only wants full random blood and urine testing? Any group who has jurisdiction of the fight can supervise it. The samples can be sent and analyzed by a WADA accredited lab.

 

No they can't.

 

Then Arum should do this. He said he wanted WADA to handle it, WADA is saying they should use the USADA. If that's not to Pacquiao's liking, then find a a suitable substitute.

 

End the F*ckin Thread

 

That idiot is an idiot.


The NSAC ae never signatories of the WADA, nor compliant to the WADA since WADA's JURISDICTION is ENTIRELY in AMATEUR SPORTS. How can they supervise someone they don't have direct involvement with.


The simple fact is WADA or USADA does not have any jurisdcition on PROFESSIONAL SPORTS and can not enforce anything because of it.


This thing has been debated before. In the Mosley - Gayweather fight, if one is found to have been doping, example Molsey, who would implement sanctions considering that at the time, NSAC was not even involved in the process.


This is a bilateral agreement and it is just right that a neutral party, even a person who spent his lifetime devising tests like Don Catlin M.D. would be ideal to foresee the testing. They could use UCLA since it is the largest Doping testing facility in the entire universe to run their test.

The simple issue would be just the timing, the methodology of the tests and there is no better person than this person. He is a scientist, not a bureaucrat like Tygart of USADA or a salesman-musician like Conte.

 

Way back in December 2009, NSAC ordered both Floyd and PAC to undergo urine testing. PAC in the Philippines at that time was being sampled under the supervision of the Philippines Sports Commission and the urine sample was sent to WADA accredited labs in China, Malaysia and Thailand.

Both Floyd and PAC tested negative.

SOURCE:

[url]http://youtubeboxingvideos.blogspot.com/2011/07/pacquiao-undergoes-urine-test.html[/url]

 

UCLA has employees who are trained follow people around and conduct random testing? When have they ever done this? And if WADA is only involved in amatuer athletes, then why are international sports federations such as UCI and FINA signatories of WADA? Both of those federations oversee professional athletes. And I don't get it, now officials from both WADA and the USADA are idiots? And think about this, you're suggesting that instead of the USADA(the top anti doping org in a America that is approved and backe by the U.S government), overseeing the tests, a state college should oversee the tests.

 

I didn't see the part where the Phillipines sports commission was overseeing random blood and urine testing.

 

UCLA laboratories!!!! Idiot.

If you refer to the actual blood collection, any certified phlebotomist who follows the chain of custody protocol or someone who had a WADA accreditation can do it. The most important thing is the chain of custody of the blood/urine sample.

Testing can only be done on WADA accredited laboratories but anybody can design a protocol, not necessarily the WADA. Even lawyers with proper consultation from doping specialist could design and implement one.

Wada or USADA are just implementing bodies. They never run the tests themselves. They ask accredited laboratories to run them. Just like the Philippines does not have a WADA accredited laboratory and utilizes the one in Jakarta, Indonesia.


Next time, learn how to read. There is a difference between the actual testing, the protocol, the implementing bodies, jurisdicition, the actual role of WADA, USADA and the different laboratories that are doing the test. It is more complicated than your feeble mind can actually comprehend. If you understand how they are related, then you just don't jump to conclusions.