Muhammud Ali vs. Roy Jones

I'm with you on this one, Pea. It'd be interesting to see how Ali adapted to a guy who was actually faster and as unorthodox as him.

I'd lay money on Jones winning one fight in a three-fight series.

 

The problem is that Roy Jones WASN'T faster than Muhammad Ali. Certainly not at heavyweight anyway. Hopfully you're not basing your assesment on how Roy looked against John Ruiz.

 

Yes, we are. Not saying Jones would beat Ali, as I've chosen Ali to win, but yes, he was definitely faster with better reflexes, which presents a style matchup for Ali, being as those were his two main assets. Facing Ruiz has nothing to do with his reflexes, Jones is that fast regardless of who he fights.

 

Muhammad Ali was fast for a 6'3", 200+ lb. person. He was not fast by lightning quick middleweight standards. Roy Jones, Meldrick Taylor(never was a middleweight,just in general), and Ray Leonard are a different breed of handspeed. Ali is a different breed of heavyweight speed.

If Ali walked around, like Holmes did in his first fight with Spinks, and expects his size to win by just being in the ring; Jones would beat him. My bet is that Ali would deside to muscle the little speedster, and score a ko.

 

:good I waved it off earlier, but an Ali like the one that beat Foster might be the type to win against Jones.

 

The speed difference between the two is hardly there, and clearly not enough to help Roy, this isn't Baldomir-Mayweather. Ali's jab was clocked to be the same speed as Ray Robinson's jab. Ali would hurt Roy, no question.

 

The people picking Jones surely have no physical boxing experience behind them.

 

What are you saying? That Ali might have a chance under the right circumstances? Are you forgetting who the underdog really is here? Look dude, almost every version of ali except for the one between 1978-1981, would be heavily favoured to beat even a peak version of Roy Jones. Just because the guy stepped up and outboxed John Ruiz, does not give us even the slightest indication that he'd have any chance against an all time great heavyweight, particularly what many consider as the best heavyweight ever. I also disagree that Roy Jones would have a huge edge in quickness. Sure he was a lot faster at middleweight and even lightheavyweight, but at 190 Lbs, he wasn't much faster if even at all than Ali at 210-215. In fact, I would venture to say that a 60's Ali was probably even faster than Jones. This says nothing about Ali's size, strenght, heart, chin, stamina, reach and everything else that he'd have over Jones.

Conclusion: Roy Jones does NOT beat Muhammad Ali........Period........

 

I said that version might be the best Ali to do it. I would pick Ali period, prior to his latest performances.

 

Get tae ****.

 

If we are talking about the Roy Jones that fought John Ruiz vs Nuhammud Ali of 1973. I like Ali to win. Size would be a big factor. Ali is 6-3 with a 80 inch reach and weighed between 212 and 221 lbs for his fights that year Jones is 5-11 with a 74 inch reach and weighed 193 lbs for the Ruiz fight.
Jones would have an advantage in speed but Ali's advantage in size combined with his ring smarts would help negate much of Jones's speed advantages.
I think Jones would have his moments and may even win a few rounds but in th end I like Ali by dicission.

 

The fight that I'd like to see is olympic Ali before he turned pro versus the Roy Jones Jr that fought Toney and Hopkins early in his career. This would surely be a middleweight speed match-up with deadly combinations. Who wins, I'd probably say Ali by decision. Depending on the criteria for winning rounds at the time, Jones could win by close or split decision. I can't see either man knocking the other out but Ali could pull it off in the late rounds based on size alone. People don't give Ali enough credit for his punching power. He didn't hit as hard when he was on his feet but he landed a whole lot of punches. When Ali sat down on his punches he hit pretty hard for a heavyweight.

 

Ali's footwork was vastly superior to Jones' and faster

 

Prime pro Jones would've taken an amateur Ali to school. Let's be serious. If you guys are giving me **** for saying Jones could give Ali matchup problems at HW, then don't retaliate with this.