The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

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  1. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    I don't have a problem with another agency being used. However, Arum is the one who said he trusted WADA. And now one of their officials is saying the USADA should oversee the testing. I'm not sure what the problem is here. Arum claimed they argeed to everything and that the testing wasn't an issue months ago. Team Pac said before that they didn't want to be tested too close to the fight. Well, they were offered a 14 day cutoff. They turned it down and promptly turned down negotiations. They said they agreed to everything and then afterwards claim that the USADA is biased towards Mayweather. If Arum can find another agency to conduct random blood an urine testing, that's he's comfortable with, that's fine. However, I doubt he has any intention of doing this. This whole objection to the USADA seems like another smokescreen.
     
  2. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    Okay, when did I ever say this wasn't the case?
     
  3. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    Didn't Uncle Bob once get in trouble for bribing an official? Doesn't his track record suggest that his is a schemer? Why should anyone trust what he says; especially when it comes integrity?
     
  4. bballchump11

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    That makes more sense then :good
     
  5. pejevan

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    That is actually the missing link I was looking.

    I just can't connect Gayweather with Tygart, no matter how I tried to.


    But your post makes it clear now!!!!

    When the first negotiations happened, Gayweather was represented by ODLH, who was a partner of AEG.

    That is just an obvious conflict of interest.
     
  6. ptm

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    Which is exactly why I said take it for what it's worth, no?

    Arum is Arum but I don't understand why a seemingly positive step towards this fight happening is even being debated.
    If one side has an issue with USADA then just move on to another testing body that is just as qualified, or in the case of UCLA labs, even more qualified.
     
  7. pejevan

    pejevan inmate No. 1363917 Full Member

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    With this one?

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    And if WADA is only involved in amatuer athletes, then why are international sports federations such as UCI and FINA signatories of WADA? Both of those federations oversee professional athletes. And I don't get it, now officials from both WADA and the USADA are idiots? And think about this, you're suggesting that instead of the USADA(the top anti doping org in a America that is approved and backe by the U.S government), overseeing the tests, a state college should oversee the tests.

    Unless of course you are asking an idiotic question?


    UCI are signatories to WADA but UCI does not use WADA. It is in principle thing. They are agrreing on the principle of clean sports, but UCI do their own testing and it is light years ahead of the WADA in technology.

    Is NFL, NBA, MLB signatories to USADA?
     
  8. BigReg

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    If I actually thought Bob was being genuine, I wouldn't have an objection. I doubt he's being sincere. He created this contreversy to make it look he was trying to make this fight when he isn't. Two years ago, Mayweather went on record saying he would be willing to use another agency as long as their were random blood and urine testing. He has never stated that the USADA has to be used. With that being said, you have to wonder why Arum is coming out and claiming that the USADA is biased and making it seem like Mayweather is unwilling to use anyone else besides the USADA.
     
  9. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    It's clear Team Pacquiao (Bob Arum more specifically) is lazy.

    They consistently give inconsistent answers.

    They do not look into verification of info before they run their mouth; see the recent interviews with Bob saying he would not allow USADA to do the testing.

    Team Pac was further exposed for ducking these tests when they tried to speak on $hit they didn't know anthing about.

    You got Arum claiming one company is better then another (WADA over USADA) when in reality WADA is just the body agency that oversees (amongst other roles they play and perform of course).

    I think Arum SPEAKING BEFORE HE KNOWS WHAT HE IS TALKING ABOUT has made Team Pac look pretty inconsistent and UNPROFESSIONAL when dealing with the media.

    The fact that Arum spoke too soon shows me he was always trying to duck the Floyd fight...

    Now that he knows WADA affiliates with USADA is he going to demand someone else...cmon now this guy never stops!:deal

    Team Pac is clearly the reason for the fight not happening before.:hat
     
  10. Devildoc

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    Probably the reason being is that Team Pac knows Floyd will go on another vacation/retirement after the ortiz fight. I would not doubt that Team Pac has lost interest/enthusiasm to make the fight happen because of Floyd's history.
     
  11. pejevan

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    USADA has a conflict of interest in this fight. Gayweather used to be with GBP who is a partner of AEG. AEG used to deal with Tygart. Bob Arum objected already in the first negotiation stating that USADA is not neutral I did not get it then.


    They are not exactly neutral.


    I just don't trust a lawyer-bureaucrat.
     
  12. Divi253

    Divi253 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I love this thread... the **** Bob throws at yall just gets ate up... and some have the nerve to say Mayweather fans eat up anything he says.

    Bad USADA! We can't trust them!! They love Floyd! That's why he beat Shane, they cheated for him! ****ing Olympians and their inside connections! lol
     
  13. BigReg

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    I know I'm supposedly the stupid one here, but since when is asking questions equivlent to stating incorrect information as fact? As far as the NFL, NBA, and MLB, their drug testing is not conducted by the USADA. The reason for this though is because their unions have always fought against drug testing. They don't want any drug testing, let alone stingent drug testing. The NFL is trying to push more stringent drug testing and has partnered with the USADA on various initiatives. However, if the union ever agreed, the USADA could certainly handle the drug testing for those leagues.
     
  14. BigReg

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    That is not a legit conflict of interest. You're really reaching here.
     
  15. pejevan

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    Regardless!!!


    USADA and WADA are for amateur sports. It's charter is for amateur sports.
     
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