The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

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  1. purephase

    purephase Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Was Arum aware of this when he said WADA should handle the testing for the fight?
     
  2. ptm

    ptm Active Member Full Member

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    So in a scenario where the Mayweather camp agree's to this stipulation and WADA endorses UCLA Labs for the testing, you think the fight still won't be made???

    That would be a HUGE egg on Arums face after such a public statement. He may be a liar but I don't think he is that dumb of a businessman.



    Which is exactly why I feel this fight actually has a chance of happening.
    Take USADA out of the mix they seem to be the only thing holding up the fight now.

    did you see the links I provided? I thought everyone knew about Arum's distrust for the USADA since back in 2008? It was discussed endlessly.

    Anyways, if you'd like to speculate more as to what Arums reasons might be, then I suggest you just read up on Travis Tygart and the criticisms of the USADA.

    Whatever the case is, who cares what Arums reason are. Seriously, this fight might be at the closest point to being sign for the past 2 years.
     
  3. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    Says who? Again, Arum is the one suggested that they go through WADA, who in turn has an official who is recommending USADA oversee the testing.
     
  4. vengeex

    vengeex Boxing Junkie banned

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    Here...

    "MANILA, Philippines -- Seven-time world champion Manny Pacquiao has submitted himself to a urine test on Wednesday pursuant to Nevada State Athletic Commission’s (NSAC) recent order for a test within 48-hours.The dope test, which took place at Pacquiao’s mansion in General Santos City, was conducted by Dr. Alejandro Pineda of the Philippine Sports Commission. Pineda is accredited by the World Anti Doping Agency.
    Pacquiao submitted urine samples contained in versapak canisters before heading to his daughter Queen Elizabeth’s birthday party.
    Pineda said the samples, which will be tested against 30 performance enhancement drugs, will be sent to Malaysia.
    He said the results will come out in 2 weeks.
    Pacquiao, for his part, said he is confident that he will pass the test."


    [url]SOURCE[/url]
     
  5. im2risky

    im2risky Active Member Full Member

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    What's with all you haters always bringing up irrelevant fact about a boxer taking breaks from work? A man has the right to enjoy the fruits of his labor.

    SMH
     
  6. pejevan

    pejevan inmate No. 1363917 Full Member

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    Bob Arum initially objected to USADA in the first negotiations. He msut have reasons.

    If there is even a smallest reason why a conflict of interest exist, then that party must inhibit. Simple as that.

    AEG is the biggest company who handles sport celebrities. Tiger woods is one of their client. They have the money to influence even the most steadfast Doping crusader. How much more if that comp0any acvtually dealt with them?

    It is a simple case that if your name crops out as associated with them, inhibit. That is what lawyers do.

    What is basically the objection of *****s about using another party other than USADA? If that is what it takes to makie the fight, then everybody should be supporting it!!!!!
     
  7. vengeex

    vengeex Boxing Junkie banned

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    WADA, USADA generally for amateur sports. They can cater professional sports on special requests I think.

    What professional sports does USADA/WADA regularly doing testing and they have full jurisdiction?
     
  8. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    Horrible rebuttal..

    Floyd not having the urge to fight pac at one time is what it is..

    Also, they did not agree to the testing back then..

    something they would eventually do anyways....

    owned ya on that one Devildoc:deal
     
  9. ptm

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    btw. Do you have a link for that? I remember someone asked for it and I didn't see it. Not to say it isn't true, I'm really hoping it IS! :)
     
  10. pejevan

    pejevan inmate No. 1363917 Full Member

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    He is probably more than aware.

    It is obviously very well known.

    WADA is the olympic dope testing arm of IOC. IOC is a sports for amateurs although professionals recently can participate. But they tests the amateurs 24/7, year round. They don't tests the professionals the same as the amateurs. I don't think they are testing Kobe Bryant after the olympics.
     
  11. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    haha..what you just said is out of place though..

    I see what your saying in that they know an affiliate etc...

    Problem your gonna run into their is this..

    Arum wants WADA right..

    Well he can get WADA just as he wants...

    WADA has already said they think USADA is the best equipped to handle it...

    Arum put himself in a messed up situation when he didnt do his reserach before opening his mouth.

    He'll get WADA...but it'll be USADA doin it:deal

    uuuuuuuu Arum's fault:hi:
     
  12. Aztecas

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    OSDT , WADA and others cant catch PED's 100%.

    You need 24-Hour monotoring/surveillance of the training.

    a team of 4 inspectors, with 2 constantly watching 12 hours, then rotate the shifts to the other 2 insectors and screen every drinnk and food each fighter takes.

    Thats the only way.
     
  13. vengeex

    vengeex Boxing Junkie banned

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    It's TRUE. This is way back in 2009.

    SOURCE:

    [url]Room for hope: Team Mayweather backs off USADA demand[/url]
     
  14. ptm

    ptm Active Member Full Member

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    It still shouldn't be a problem.

    If they go with another testing org that is WADA approved, such as UCLA labs then that should be a done deal.
     
  15. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    WADA has already endorsed the USADA. If they did endorse UCLA, the fight still wouldn't get made

    He's already lied several times. He straigt up lied and claimed Mayweather refused to comprimise and have a cutoff date, when Mayweather in fact offered a 14 day cutoff. He claimed they agreed to everything and testing wasn't an issue, then recenlty came out and said the USADA is biased. He can easily make up some other excuse and everyone will eat it up.




    I don't believe that for a second. Two years ago, Team Mayweather said they were willing to use someone besides the USADA and offered a 14 day cutoff and were still turned down.


    Arum is a liar and a manipulator. If the issue was the USADA or Pac getting tested too close to the fight, the fight would've been made 2 years ago.

    Again, Mayweather said he was willing to use someone besides the USADA 2 years ago. He has never stated that the USADA has to be used. So why is Arum now trying to make it seem like the USADA is an issue here and holding up the fight?

    We're still at square one. Nothing has been resolved.
     
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