Name five roughest toughest in or out of the ring, regardless of weight. I'll start : Mysterious Billy Smith Ace Hudkins Harry Greb Chuck Wiggins Rocky Graziano All tough and mean. And your 5 ?
Sonny Liston Tom Sharkey Chuck Wiggins Harry Greb Ace Hudkins Mysterious Billy Smith (OK, that's six. Sue me!)
I read that Dave Shade was quite a handful outside of the ring as well. Brawled with cops when drunk, etc. Inside the ring or out, this guy was no easy haul. This content is protected
Guys you can hit with everything then would hit you harder... Hagler Marciano Chavez Brisco Prime Liston
james figg would f&*k you up with a stick, sword or his fists bob fitzsimmons was a world class street fighter george foreman
John L Sullivan seemed to do most of his fighting in bars. Roberto Duran cos.........well cos he's bloody Roberto Duran. Jack Dempsey would be a good bet. George Foreman is a beast - and he used to street fight a lot when younger. Sonny Liston - used to break people's legs for the mafia. There are shitloads of others. Rocky Graziano, Rocky Marciano, Marvin Hagler, Mike Tyson, Nigel Benn.....I could go on! Good thread though. I like seeing which fighters people reckon would do serious damage on the street! :good
I'll go along with Mysterious Billy Smith and Joe Gans from reputation. Add: George Foreman (old or young, mean as a snake in the ring) Roberto Duran (ask Ken Buchanan, or Davey Moore, or Lampley for that matter) Mike Tyson (relished punishing people when he could, dirtiest of them all when he couldn't)
Stanley Ketchel King Carlos Monzon the great line of Jack Kearns about Dempsey: "If he ever put his head down, balled his fists and started walking toward me, I wouldn't give two cents for my life.". Galindez Gattica:cheers:cheers:cheersdrink:drink
I think you could add George Chuvalo to the mix. You could beat him, but all he did was throw bodyshots and hang tough. An opponent has to be in top shape for George and the result is likely a decision and there is a physical toll to pay. You aren't backing him up much. Guys could end up with bad hands and those punches of his to the shoulders elbows and ribs don't do heavies any good long term.