If SRR has started his career in say...2000...

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by TheIvMan, Jul 15, 2011.


  1. globenerd

    globenerd Guest

    The athletes in all those other sports are bigger, stronger and faster. The weight classes in boxing are still the same. So they're obviously not bigger, stronger and faster. They're the same size. Boxing keeps things even. This isn't that hard to understand, especially for a master of comprehension like yourself.

    A big football lineman in the 40s was 200 pounds, there's barely anyone in the league that small anymore. High jumpers, long jumpers and javelin throwers are all much bigger than they used to be.
    But the welterweight champ of the world in the 40s, and welterweight champ of today are about the same size. Only difference, the 40s champ was actually bigger than this one. Robinson was 5-11, Floyd is 5-8.

    Middleweights then were all between about 5-10 and 6-2, and they all weighed 160 pounds. Same as today. Need I go on?
     
  2. Drew101

    Drew101 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Probably as good a hypothesis as any. Although, in an odd sort of way, some of the mystique that SRR had gained in the 40's by virtue of being considered the uncrowned champion at welterweight for so long might be lost in the translation if he fights in the current era. After all, with the proliferation of world titles, he would likely have gained one at some point, more than likely within the first two years of his career.

    And regardless of how good he was, he'd have a hell of a lot of detractors on sites like these. It always tends to work that way. :D
     
  3. Royal-T-Bag

    Royal-T-Bag Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    40-0 p4p #1 for 11 straight years

    All you people saying boxers are better now and mor eveolved and using examples of athletes in other sports like the 100m dash getting better to argue that are ****ing idiots.

    I agree that most sports have evolved and the participants of this era would crush those of the 40's/50's but boxing is not one of those sports. In sports like basketball/football/hockey training techniques and game strategy have changed significantly for the better and there are literally 50 times more participants than there were in 40's/50's making the talent pool way deeper. The thing is with boxing it has actually regressed and was far better in the 40's- boxing in the 40's was the #1 sport in the world, now it's not even top 10!! It's like a reversal of the other sports where in the 40's there were 50 times more boxers making the talent pool way deeper and not only that but the training techniques and strategy for boxing has remained unchanged since that era (the same **** that worked best back then works best now- guess that's what happens in a sport that's had over 2 thousand years to evolve unlike others that have been around for lesss than 2 hundred) so the modern fighters aren't benefiting from better training/ strategy or the sport evolving and there's far less boxers making the talent pool way smaller. Not to mention they did far more sparring back then and fought 5 times as many fights meaning they never lost their sharpness, they were tougher and they were always in fighting shape, the best training is always hands on and they had far more of that in 40's too. Boxing was just better back then unfortunately and unless it regains it's position as a top 3 sport in the world it'll most likely never reach the level it was at during the golden age.

    Anyone that claims boxing is better now just proves their lack of knowledge on the sports history. My guess is that people claiming this are youngins who've never taken the time to learn about this great sport with over 2 thousand years of trial and error and are clueless to anything pre 2000.
     
  4. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    That's crazy. Sugar was able to box onto his mid 40s, he retired at 45.
     
  5. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    That longevity of dominance sounds similar to someone we all know. They even both make shitty music and beat women up in their free time.
     
  6. ovechkin8crosby

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    36-4

    floyd's in srr's generation
    0-40
     
  7. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    I see him managing to get a belt at 130, but only keep it for a split second the way Oscar did.

    He also gets titled at 135, 140, 147, 154, and finally at 160.

    The white supremacists on this board will :| about how Robinson is so greedy and hard to make fights with.
     
  8. timeout

    timeout Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I learnt that it a complete ****.

    SRR is the greatest in his era a true legend and was far ahead of anyone at the time.

    There's a famous man called Darwin that discovered that nature / people all living things evolve.

    Ppl are living longer / eating better / training better.
    Better coaches / better medicine / more drugs ( legal and not ^^^so legal ) more ppl competing in the sport
    = all around a better fitter and stronger athletes today than in other eras.
    FACT.

    Deal with it...
     
  9. timeout

    timeout Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Except SRR would never ask for a drugs test but would step up to the plate.
    SRR=I have the urge.
     
  10. Steenalized

    Steenalized Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I could see, depending on what years they fought in, him losing to Hopkins (early-mid 2000s), Martinez (past two or so years), and Winky (again early-mid 2000s). I'd probably peg him to be nearly undefeated though
     
  11. Royal-T-Bag

    Royal-T-Bag Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Jesus your simple and thick in the head.....do I have to reiterate?

    "All you people saying boxers are better now and mor eveolved and using examples of athletes in other sports like the 100m dash getting better to argue that are ****ing idiots.

    I agree that most sports have evolved and the participants of this era would crush those of the 40's/50's but boxing is not one of those sports. In sports like basketball/football/hockey training techniques and game strategy have changed significantly for the better and there are literally 50 times more participants than there were in 40's/50's making the talent pool way deeper. The thing is with boxing it has actually regressed and was far better in the 40's- boxing in the 40's was the #1 sport in the world, now it's not even top 10!! It's like a reversal of the other sports where in the 40's there were 50 times more boxers making the talent pool way deeper and not only that but the training techniques and strategy for boxing has remained unchanged since that era (the same **** that worked best back then works best now- guess that's what happens in a sport that's had over 2 thousand years to evolve unlike others that have been around for lesss than 2 hundred) so the modern fighters aren't benefiting from better training/ strategy or the sport evolving and there's far less boxers making the talent pool way smaller. Not to mention they did far more sparring back then and fought 5 times as many fights meaning they never lost their sharpness, they were tougher and they were always in fighting shape, the best training is always hands on and they had far more of that in 40's too. Boxing was just better back then unfortunately and unless it regains it's position as a top 3 sport in the world it'll most likely never reach the level it was at during the golden age.

    Anyone that claims boxing is better now just proves their lack of knowledge on the sports history. My guess is that people claiming this are youngins who've never taken the time to learn about this great sport with over 2 thousand years of trial and error and are clueless to anything pre 2000."
     
  12. AnthonyW

    AnthonyW ESB Official Gif Poster Full Member

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    Some unbelievably stupid posts in this thread, none more so than the TS's posts...sigh...
     
  13. TitoMahawk

    TitoMahawk Retarded trolls detector Full Member

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    WOw...

    DOes that mean that every non-Mayweather fan are white supremacist? :think
     
  14. timeout

    timeout Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I am giving u facts. Ur giving me ur opinion.:patsch

    Athletes today are better stronger quicker and fitter than athletes of other eras. That's a fact u ******.:deal

    Never argue with a fool over the Internet. Because u ain't going to win, hence I am out...
     
  15. timeout

    timeout Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Don't mind him, he's just had too much black semen pumped up his ass to know any better....:lol: