The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

Floyd could be taking all the PEDs he wants in between fights... All he would to do his get some from his roided out bodyguards. His testing demands don't test 365 days a year , thus not really detering the use of PEDs overall.

 

Take the test Floyd, 365 days. If you are really serious of cleaning up the sport.

 

Extra red blood cells means extra O2 in your blood. It does not give you extra strength, but rather may give you longer stamina. Did not Pac KO'd Hatton in 2, KD'd Cotto in 3 and started fakking up Margo in 4. These were all early rounds, and everybody knows Pac can always go the distance.

 

Please!!! Why do you think he's had all those 'retirements'? Of course its to avoid certain fights but I also think he is juicing during those periods. The guilty party always speaks first. He has hand issues, i'm sure he's used HGH and such to heal and to make himself stronger, then comes back a year later bigger and stronger than before. We don't see him asking for 365 testing do we? And to act as if he truly is sincere about 'cleaning up the sport' is pure bollocks! He's using this as a mental advantage over his opponents as well as a way to avoid a certain fighter, just can't think of his name...

 

Floyd's intentions are NOT what he claims when he brought much needed attention to this topic of PEDs in boxing as well as other sports. He used the nobility of the cause to hide behind the intent to drag out a long exhausting negotiation process that is still going on.

The reason behind the demands stem from the accusations he blasted PAC with. Which NO ONE expected. Everyone expected Floyd to make the fight ASAP and get that money with all the talk about how easy beating PAC would be and how eager he was to expose him.

So in order for Floyd to save face after the negotiations broke down with PAC was to stick to his guns on the testing. He was already being labeled a "DUCK" and no one believed him when he claimed that the demands for OSDT was for the "GREATER GOOD". Claiming he wanted to clean up the sport and give back to it was a hard pill to swallow simply b/c Floyd for yrs said all he cares about is money and that he didn't care about boxing...it was just a means to an end and he happened to be extremly good at it.

There was no way he could continue on with his career and NOT ask any of his OTHER opponents to test. he'd get 10 times the negativie press that he already has now....and that's A LOT.

 

True....Floyd is the one who opened his mouth boasting about how he was going to clean up boxing yet all he's doing is going through the motions.

He's done nothing but draw MORE attention to the issue by using his "NAME". But if he REALLY wanted to clean up the sport and implement CHANGE he'd be looking to do more.

He could lead by example in going for FULL OLYMPIC testing which is all year round. He could set the benchmark for his peers and lead by example. Not everyone can do OSDT.....even less TRUE Olympic testing. But Floyd can...

Floyd doesn't have any ill effects of giving blood....he has the resources available to facilitate true testing and he has the platform to set the stage for effective change if he really wanted to follow through with his claim that he would clean up boxing.

The tests that Floyd wants doesn't deter anyone who is doping which is why the majority are not buying into his story. They try to shift attention over to PAC for negotiating a cut off. Now that Floyd has acknowledged that PAC has accepted....there's no longer any wiggle room to avoid the super fight that's been 3 yrs in the makign.

 

good point and this article is basically designed to get a discussion going with some good arguments either way so thank you. I dont know Floyds intentions and i am not saying that they may not be for other reasons than the good of the sport, but PED testing during fight camps on the run up to fights Olympic style is a good thing. Thiis 365 ayear testing is pie in the sky but in the run up ot fights is necessary IMO

 

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Don't think he's pulling a roger clemens, but then again I didn't think clemens was a gear user either. Still, I think both fighters don't really want the fight.

 

I agree.... It's good that there is progressive signs that change is forthcoming but again.... I can't get down with supporting Floyd when it pertains to his dealings with Manny simply b/c I think he's been completey irresponsible with both his words and actions. He's gotten the worse of the situation but at the end of the day all of his allegations and how he went about DEMANDING PAC take his tests were all unecessary. He could have acted in a much more professional manner and NOT throw anyone under the bus without just cause and gotten better results with PAC and the whole testing debate.

 

That is a big part of why I doubt alot of the PED theories that follow Pacquiao.
Taking things to help your stamina would make sense if he had a tendency to gas out - but he's always had good stamina/energy levels in the ring.

Taking something to increase his power would make sense if he was a featherfisted fighter but he was a big puncher at the lower weights and is a good puncher at 147. Also brute strength is only one aspect of punch power: form, timing, leverage and speed play a part in it.

Plus, Pacquiao's physical attributes have never been his weakness. Early in his career his weaknesses have all been technical - he was very much a one handed fighter in the past and he didn't always have a great defence. Both of these things cannot be remedied by substances, just hard work in the gym.

The only other thing is the weight, Pacquiao was just oversized at the lower weights he was fighting at. He often struggled with weight and has lost at least 1 title on the scales as he has grown into his frame.

 

Very true

 

well said.
+1

 

Accusing someone of juicing without a shroud of documentable evidence, only using performance as reasoning, is the biggest compliment one can make to the likes of Manny Pacquiao.

 

A substance that is not illegal to use in training but in a fight... I agree this should be banned all together though to be honest, but it doesnt excuse the use of PEDs that other fighters are using..