Incredible how many BS is written in these forums today. Wlad definitely is one of the hardest hitters, Top5 who knows, but Top10 for sure. He landed not one right hand flush on Haye. Vitali hit Sanders with almost everything but the kitschen sink and not Wladimir...
Funny i must of missed that big wobble :roll: Haye spent alot of the time stood in range of Wlad with his hands by his waist, Wlad still couldnt tag him, but Haye has a **** defence right? So either Wlad doesnt hit very hard, Haye has a granite chin or Haye had the defence to make him miss most of the time. Make your ****ing mind up hi:
1. Haye had gret defence as his body movement and excellent reflexes 2. Haye's durability as hw is better than he was little bit drained as a cruiser.
No he isn't. He definitely hits hard but he's more of an attrition puncher because someone who hits as hard as you say would put people away sooner than he actually does.
running = great defence???ok what ever you say...i didnt say haye wobbled..i said he hurt him as soon as it landed and he retreated straight away you ****ing tool..go watch the fight again without wanking this time you idiot
**** sake dick head look at your post above, you said Haye was wobbled big time, ****ing twat Like i said Haye spent alot of time stood in Wlads range with both hands down by his side and still managed to make Wlad miss, so let me get this straight, you didnt think he had good head movement or upper body movement to avoid the punches or go with the punches, that to me says pretty good defence against someone with Wlads speed, reach and power :think You must be a little bit simple :hi:
like i said go watch the 12th round...youl see haye walking into a short right hand then retreating into the corner HURT.if your to much of an ignoramous then thats your problem..ino your a haye fan but **** me take it on the chin...and im saying his defence is **** yes..all he done against wlad was stay on the outside and make him miss as much as he could..to me thats not defence thats running all night..ANYBODY could do that if there plan is to go only 12 rounds and not try and win..which is why haye is getting so much flack about it..****ing nitwit..when haye tryd to win fights his defence is shite..but ok ill get on ur bandwagan..when haye wants to go 12 rounds and lose his defence is ****ing atg matterial:hi::hi::hi:...and you a shaved baaboon???and by the way is there no sarcasim in you??what does wobbled mean??hurt and retreating on shaky legs??now be a gd boy and go and watch round 12.even mr jim watt picked up on the punch
Ive watched the 12th round many times and know exactly what punch your talking about as Jim clueless Watt made such a fuss of it at the time but i dont see Haye being hurt by it at all. He walked straight into it but it had no effect whatsoever. Your just a deluded hater, Haye has a great defence using upper body movement and head movement with exceptional reflexes. Show me another Heavy who could stand in Wlads range with both hands by his waist and still make Wlad miss, you cant and you know it. Hell even your boy Wlad praises his upperbody and head movement in this vid [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QxBlIYXbyg&feature=player_embedded[/ame] Try again knobhead :hi:
No he isnt two guys who Wlad outweighs by at least 50 pounds - Frazier had a better left hook and marciano had a better overhand right . even harder hitters are guys like Louis,Foreman,Shavers ,Tyson, Baer etc, even our very own pantomime dame Frank Bruno had better one shot power
Why not ? ever heard of leverage ? or when a fighter can punch his weight ? I would rather be hit by an 18 stone arm punching stiff than a 14 stone guy hitting with leverage .
no effect??he stopped bobing and weaving when it hit him he retreated and he started his mid air swimming attack which he always does when hes hurt..dont need to try anything again..you know he was hurt..and like i said its easy to be fast and make someone miss if you train for 6 months to avoid on the outside..any crusierweight with that stratagy does that easily..the key to winning tho is actually hit back..hayes defence when hes actually there to fight is shite when hes there not to get knocked out then its good..but then again anyone who is there not to get knocked out has a great defence..its quite easy to go 12 rounds and if your willing to fight like that..see kingpins efforts against vitali..