just watched the frankie gavin fight!

I must have missed the rematch :thumbsup

 

He was boring against mutley, not bad. He completely shut him down. Haven't seen the woodhouse fight, but will do tonight. One bad night at the office hardly makes him an easy mark.

 

Looking at this thread, I'm far from the only one to have it a clear Gavin win. So, how did you score it?

 

I think it's all down to expectation on how you view Frankie Gavin and his recent performances. I've always said Frankie is a really good talent, but a little style over substance. By that i mean he has what it takes to pick up a strap along the way and have a very good career, but he needs to have exceptional attributes with his style to operate at truly world class level. I have never got that vibe of a Calzaghe type of special talent from Frankie. It's very difficult for fighters like Gavin to compete at the top for any sustained period if they don't have incredible gifts in their tool box. Frankie is talented, but not special. I hope this makes sense.

His reflexes and anticipation are good, but not great. He can make you miss but doesn't always make you pay. His power is lacking so he needs to fight really intelligent, be spot on all the time and as he moves up fight close to perfect fights, as he doesn't have that game changer to bail himself out. His boxing IQ needs to be top notch. Basically for him to succeed at world level with his disadvantages he needs perfect fundamentals or incredible defensive reflexes, which he doesn't have. You can't be hit with a double jab from Curtis Woodhouse, if you're gonna stay in hitting range like that your eyes have to be first-rate. You need to take care of the little details like always staying off centre and constantly keeping your foot outside of your opponents lead, which Frankie wasn't always doing against Woodhouse.

 

Agreed. He simply doesn't throw a lot and doesn't pack much power in his shots. He is primarily a defensive fighter so its not going to pack the crowd into the arena as he moves on. He is a defensive counterpuncher and is not content to lead.. maybe that needs to be taught to him by a better trainer than farnell as i do believe he should get better training. he needs to work on his offense

 

This is probabily the most spot on scorecard. No arguments if anyone gave Woodhouse the 10th. I probabily gave him the wrong round.

 

You really do need to stop this obsession. You're making yourself look a knob.

 

I'm not saying it wasn't a clear Gavin win but after watching it the impression I got was that the 116-113 score was closer than the virtual shutouts people on here had it...You only have to look at Gavins post fight reaction to realise that he knew it wasn't anywhere close to some of the scores you lads have got it.

 

Such a nob u

 

That was probabily more to do with Frankie being dissappointed with not getting Woodhouse out of there or letting him do better than he expected. He was hard on himself i thought, which isn't a bad thing.

Take no notice of him, Arnie.

 

Despite the score I got, he wasn't quite blowing Woodhouse away. The fight doesn't feel like a 119-110 affair to me either btw, it's just one of those fights where round-by-round scoring doesn't give a wholly accurate view of how the fight went.

Pre-fight, Gavin was saying he was going to stop Woodhouse, that Woodhouse was nowhere near good enough to be in the ring with him etc... Turns out Woodhouse easily went 12 with him and made most rounds competitive. Frankie can't be happy with that, I'd be worried if he was.

 

It was more than disappointment, the lad was beside himself, completely down and deflated.

 

for me, woodhouse took the first, second, sixth and tenth clearly enough.

its mostly gavin in the other rounds but there is a case to be made for curtis in those rounds.

i dont think its harsh on gavin to give curtis those 4 rounds, thats pretty fair imo.

they are the ones he won clear enough for me. there is not much in most of the other rounds apart from the 12th

 

seriously,mate,lad,lady,what ever the **** you are,will you shut the **** up.

some questions for you : what experiance do you have i boxing
have you boxed
have you hit a bag
have you been in a ring and hit some pads with a trainer
have you sparred
have you shadow boxed
have you skipped
have you walked past a boxing gym
have you watched rocky 1 2 3 4 5 6 ?

im just asking,cos you got a ****ing lot to say for yourself sweetie:think