Larry Holmes vs Max Schmeling

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  1. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Quarry is tougher, more durable, and more stable mentaly than Sharkey, but he never saw the day that he was half the technician that Sharkey was.
     
  2. TG1

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    Yeah nostalgia boy! Let's also assume that Fred Perry would beat Rafael Nedal because he played tennis at a decent level almost 100 ****in years ago?

    I assume Dempsey beats Bowe and Lennox Lewis, right?

    Marciano would outpunch Tyson?

    Joe Louis would beat Klitschko?

    I've heard **** like this in ESB for years and it get's funnier by the day!
     
  3. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Ah, ignorance is bliss. :thumbsup
     
  4. Duodenum

    Duodenum Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Observers actually considered him to be slightly past his best going into the Baer fight at 27. For me personally, peak was probably Stribling in Cleveland, where he appeared at age 25 to be positively bursting with energy through all 15 rounds in Ring's 1931 FOTY, with the strength at the end to gleefully hoist his defeated challenger and carry him across the ring efforlessly. A workmanlike performance to be sure, but with a unique conclusion, as nobody else ever stopped Strib in 289 bouts. (And the first successful HW Title defense in three years, so a major event.)

    Unfortunately for us, we were deprived of much of his peak by his one fight per year pace from Uzcudun I in June 1929, to Sharkey I in June 1930, to Stribling in July 1931, to Sharkey II in June 1932. These meager four bouts spanned the ages from 23 to 26 for Max. (Keep in mind that Louis described Max Baer as his peak performance, when Joe was only 21.) It was akin to Ali's 1967-1970 exile, the 1942 to 1946 wartime hiatus of Louis, and mothballing of Dempsey between 1921 and 1923, then again between 1923 and 1926.

    Obviously, Louis was easily his greatest win, but Hamas II is also on film, and shouldn't be overlooked. At 29, Max had rounded into a savvy veteran as his athletic capabilities diluted ever so slightly.
     
  5. TG1

    TG1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    And milking nostalgia because your read a Ralph Wiley book or had an internet conversation with Bert Sugar isn't:thumbsup
     
  6. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Isn“t what? Well, always a pleasure reading such a killer argument like "nostalgia" instead of proper arguments. But anyway, thanks.
     
  7. Son of Gaul

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  8. Son of Gaul

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  9. Vockerman

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    And Entertaining - like a reality TV show - this guys memory extends ALL the way back into the 1990's! What a historian!
     
  10. Mendoza

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    Good match up. I would go with Holmes via close but clear UD, or late round TKO.
     
  11. PowerPuncher

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    You certainly enjoy it :thumbsup
     
  12. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Holmes would knock that fool out!
     
  13. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    uncoordinated palooka!
     
  14. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Oh, the irony ... :lol: