he beat an atg lightweight and an atg welterweight.calzaghe couldnt do anything about jones and hopkins wanting no part of him
You're full of ****, pal! Duran won legit titles at 135lbs, 147lbs, 154lbs and 160lbs. Hearns won legit titles at 147lbs, 154lbs, 160lbs, 168lbs and 175lbs. What did you want Hagler to do? Drop down to 135 for Duran and 147 for Hearns? By your logic Calzaghe beat a junior middleweight in Roy Jones and a middleweight in Hopkins! You're owned - now go watch Calzaghe vs. Bika or some ****!
TG1 - Hopkins is the one who avoided Calzaghe in 2002. I'm sorry but a shot fighter does not beat Pavlik or Tarver the way Hopkins did. A middle weight Hopkins could not have beaten them that convincingly. The Eubank and Hopkins Calzaghe beat >p>4>p> the Duran and Hearns Hagler beat.
Please just think about what your saying. Your saying that you can't think of ten fighters of all time that are better than joe calzaghe...I'll help you with just some. Greb, Leonard, sugar rays Leonard ond Robinson, Ali, duran, Armstrong, pep, HAGLER, louis, whitaker and the list goes on and on and on.
In 2002 Calzaghe had done jack **** and Hopkins wasn't interested in the fight. I'm not saying Hopkins was shot against Joe but he wasn't the fighter he was four or five years prior. Pavlik was a great win for Bernard but he was ABC and Hopkins took him to school. If that fight had been at 160 in 1999 or 2000 Pavlik would have been stopped. Tarver dropped almost 50lbs to make weight and looked like dog **** against Hopkins. He fought better yesterday. Pascal performances were awesome GRANTED. Still - Calzaghe won a shitty fight against Hopkins, in which neither guy impressed and it was one of the worst style match ups in history. PS - The Eubank that Calzaqhe beat was training to make 175 and dropped to 168 on ten days notice. He was pound for pound better than nothing and WAY PAST IT! PPS - The OP is making out that Calzaghe is higher ATG than Hagler and he looks like an idiot. There is no changing that regardless of opinions on the above!
we candebate this forever and a day. no one can take away what calzaghe did. 46 and 0 2 weightclasses. and it isnt his fault the competition was so shite. the skill level in him would of allowed him to be undefeated against the likes of bute froch ward dirrel aa. dont judge on his competetion judge him on his skill potential. top 10 atg no. top 30 deffinatly