The main reason Pacquiao wouldn't beat Mayweather, is that ....

Spot on. I've said this a number of times, "but...but...Manny's a southpaw"...this is usually the response I get. :good

 

Whenever Gander talks about this bout, its southpaw this, southpaw that. Southpaws are awkward, but Pacquiao is an awkward southpaw. Pacquiao's stance will not be the main thing Mayweather needs to worry about in this match up.

 

He was coming off a huge layoff and looked rusty as ****. Not only was Mosley incredibly slow, but he was super inactive as well. It was a horrible version of Shane we saw fight Mayweather.

Though it is true that we saw Mosley throw some epic combos in that fight... Who could forget the classic feint, feint, feint, feint to don't punch combo?

It wasn't a case of Mayweather being so good he made Mosley look bad either, as Mayweather looked pretty shitty in that fight.

Both Pac and Mayweather fought a broken version of Mosley and still managed to look bad in the process; you can claim that this wasn't the case, but when you do so you are lying to yourself.

You have become so rabid in your support for Mayweather that you have become blatantly blind to reason. You are the equivalent of a deranged Pacfan; you have become what you hate so very much...

Why don't you consider becoming a fan of boxing instead of being just a fan of Mayweather?

 

Your assumption that PAC's "D" ain't good enough isn't supported by hard numbers. PAC's opponents connect percentage and work rate both drop whenever they face Manny over any of their other opponents which is similar to what happens when fighters have Floyd in front of them.

The difference is that both men have vastly contrasting styles that essentially result in the same outcomes. PAC's offesnive and dynamic offense keeps his opponents on "DEFENSIVE mode", dropping their work rate and PAC's controlling of the pace hinders accuracy for his foes.

Floyd is more of a crisp counter puncher who relies on his opponents offense to create some of his own. What ends up happening is the crisp, sharp counter punching, intertwined with his defensive reflexes halts his opponents connect percentage and the willingness to keep eating counters whenever they decide to attack.

They use different vehicles to get to the same destination. But both are effective.

The question in the fight between PAC and Floyd will be who's style will present MORE problems for the other. In essence..... When and if Floyd and PAC fight...the fight will be determined based on who will be more effective in implementing their style on the other.

 

Mayweather tends to happily back up in straight lines onto the ropes, I dont think, or wouldn't advise him to do this against Pacquiao.

Pacquiao's right hook is very good, he gets a lot of power into it. But I will have to rewatch recent bouts, I can only remember him landing it on attacking opponents...:think

 

LOL.... Floyd fought the same Shane in the physical....but mentally had a more determined dance partner.

PAC was in a more difficult position based on the lapse Shane had mentally. He was scared, ran and did his best to survive. It's harder to put up good numbers against a guy looking to avoid exchanges and run.

Floyd stayed right there in the pocket and Shane stayed right there with him inflating Floyd stats.

 

Look at your avatar? Yeah you really are objective when it comes to the pac v floyd debate.

 

The only way Floyd has the ability to control the fight against PAC is if he some how can dictate the pace or tempo, which normally he does. When Floyd is pressured, Floyd is dictated to when and where to fight which takes him out of his element.

The problem PAC presents to Floyd is that his offensive style is more dynamic, relentless and controlled than anyone he's ever faced.....coupled with the fact that all of this offense is going to come from the southpaw stance on increases the trouble for Floyd.

On the flip side Floyd's style also presents a lot of problems for PAC IF and only IF Floyd fights in a more aggressive manner than he's use to. He has to "FIGHT". Not all the time..just enough to "CONTROL" where the fight takes place and how often.

The problem with that is it means Floyd has got to put himself in "RISKY" situations with PAC who is more than capable of capitolizing on opportunities of those who decide to go to to toe with him. Case in point is how PAC was able to quickly change the mind of Shane who committed to "fighting" with PAC only to get a reality check that placed him in survival mode for the remainder of the fight.

 

I agree Floyd usually presses the southpaws. But, he won't have to press Manny. I guess you could say Clottey played the percentages...played to lose. He waits for his opponent to stop punching before coming out of his shell. Not wise against a fighter that throws a high volume of punches per round. Floyd, I'd imagine, would side step and keep Manny off balance, not just stand there and take everything Manny could dish out. I also think his jab and straight right hand will cause Manny to drop his output.

 

so who do you believe wins?

No

Mosley was over the hill when Floyd fought him. Mosley was Sugar Shot Oldsley when emmanuel fought him.

Floyd made Shane useless. emmaneul and shane made each other clueless.

so who do you believe wins?

 

Jesus... I like both fighters, neither are my favorite. Why does my, very harmless, avatar hurt so many feelings? It isn't a super scandalous accusation or anything.

I don't want to change it because I don't feel like it should be a big deal. Yet, I probably will because so many people seem to think that it is some great affront to Mayweather and are apparently offended by it...