Retired fighters gaining superpowers?

yes.... we go thru a zillion specific, subjective comparison scenarios that everyone bellyache and contend with, according to their ideological view of the boxer that existed before the believer was ever conceived.

I dont really buy into or get involved with these bitchfests. In the same route, im hesitant to fully match up those from the past as to the current, because of the inherent and natural biased view believing that the future is always better than the past because of the natural progression of competition.

Been watching alot of ESPN classics on cable, which shows old B&W boxing fights from the 50's and up. I tell you what, despite of weightclass, those fighters were in RIDICULOUS shape surprisingly. Im talking about not even an inch of fat. And considering that most fighters fought much more frequently than the fighters of today, you have to believe they are more in shape and much more rugged. I'd think that their work output is also higher than today's fighters.

So mashing fighters from different eras will always be a subjective matter, according to personal ideology and also the general consensus and perception of that particular fighter IN that time period. Maybe everyone thought he was a fab and dominant fighter, but factually lacked strong competition, according the general populace at the time. Who knows.

Another thing with the heavyweights. The weight of the weightclasses have changed also. Is it PRACTICAL to try to mash Rocky Marciano vs a Klitschko at the time? The dood didnt push 190! Being practical these days, he'd be a Light Heavyweight or a Cruiserweight!

Bored ESB'rs will always contrive debateable fluff about their personal views on how great a fighter would be versus whoever....

I say let the fighter lay were they had laid, and honor them according to their actions and competition. Quit trying to do Mr. Rogers Make Believe bull****, because its immature and annoying as ****...

 

:rofl

 

These fighters electrified audiences with their performances for a reason. True raw competition between fighters in the same division and subsequent dominance made clear for audiences by singular championships is what's lacking today.

 

Wilt Chamberlain was a freakish athlete. The center position is pretty pitiful today in the NBA.

 

1. Boxing's weight classes separate it from other sports. NFL players are bigger and faster than ever before sure but a 160 lb man is still a 160 lb man.
2. When making comparisons its often assumed that the older fighter would get the training benefits of today's sports science.

 

You'd have to assume that the athletes of the past would have access to the same training, nutrition, and science as today's fighters no? That might make a difference when comparing.

 

Beat me to it.

 

Only one fighter has super powers and that is Supah Zab Judah

JUDAH: "I am still pound for pound the best fighter in the world"

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Just the other day I was wondering how well a focused and disciplined Mike Tyson might do today if he made a comeback and kept his head on straight. I think he'd make a pretty decent splash.

 

No. Tyson has been shot to **** for a decade, he'd get torched. Holy **** do people utterly overreact about the current HW division.

:rofl you need to watch a lot more boxing

 

It's true that some fans have a tendency to look back at bygone eras with rose colored nostalgia glasses. However, it is also true that the past ten years or so has not been a particularly great era. The best fighters from today simply are not as good as the best fighters from some of the past eras.

Let's look briefly at one of my personal favorites: Alexis Arguello. El Flaco Explosivo was simply one of the best prize fighters who ever laced up a pair of gloves. That's not euphoric recall. It is a matter of historical fact. Naturally fans who saw Alexis in action will favor him over 99% of fighters who recently fought between 126 and 135. No one is trying to attribute super powers to Arguello. We're simply being realistic about the fact that Alexis was one of the most technically perfect stand-up boxer/punchers who ever lived.

Danny "Little Red" Lopez is another of my all time personal favorites. This is a man who was NEVER in a dull fight. When Martinez knocked out Williams we were in awe of that knock out. Danny used to knock guys out worse than that with a frightening degree of regularity. He used to hit guys with what looked like a routine punch, and the guy would go down like someone shot him in the head! Lopez could end a fight instantly with either hand, and got off the canvass to win a stunning 11 times. Danny also had a great back story. Part of that story was becoming a dominant world champ AFTER the boxing world wrote him off as a shot fighter. He ruled the featherweight division for 4 years, and it took no less a fighter than one Salvador Sanchez to knock Danny off the throne. Naturally most educated fans will favor Danny over 90% of the guys who ever fought at 126.

Now, let's look at the issue from a different angle. Most of us are pretty excited about the super middleweight division. Right now it's one of the hottest divisions in the sport. The top five appear to be Lucian Bute, Andre Ward, Carl Froch, Mikkel Kessler, and Kelly Pavlik. Do you realize that not all that long ago all 5 of those guys would have had to spend their entire career at 175. The IBF inaugurated the SMW division in 1984. With no SMW division, and no 30 hour weigh-in rule, all this guys would have been light heavyweights. Back in the day they would all be closer to the level of Murray Sutherland than Michel Spinks: very good contenders who always fell short of a world championship.

Thirty years from now boxing fans will talk about Hopkins, Mayweather, Pac, and some others, the same way we currently talk about past greats. They won't be attributing super powers to anyone. They'll just be telling the truth about some amazing boxers.