The main reason Pacquiao wouldn't beat Mayweather, is that ....

just look at his handle name and you would think he would have a reasonable post?

 

Yawn. The same thread again from this guy.

Manny will get hit by Mayweather of course, but it won't matter, because Floyd will be so determined not to get hurt/dropped/stopped by Pacquiao that he won't throw enough punches to win enough rounds.

His defensive, cautious, safety-first mentality and his ego will be his undoing.

Wait and see. :good

 

if you recall.....the success that PAC's most recent opponents had against him was in those spots where PAC's bravado took over as it always does before he gets back to the game plan. PAC allowed Cotto the chance to open up and do work by laying up on the ropes, baiting him in. Cotto and Marg both obliged. And those were the spots where PAC took his damage. If PAC wanted...REALLY wanted to avoid risk he could. His natrual athletic qualities like his speed and relfexes are enough to work on the outside, picking and choosing spots to capitolize on while avoiding risk. Similar to what Floyd does in most of his fights.

I see your perspective on why you don't think it will be a hard fight for Floyd but I honestly feel you have a warped perception of PAC and his ability which produces your predicition of the fight itself. And I may have the same issue on that I OVER estimate PAC's ability and OVER analyze Floyd's mind set having to do with PAC. But it's clear as day that Floyd has been unrattled and shaken by PAC over the last year or so. And the fight hasn't even been close to being made.

 

Greats like Morales and MAB are INSTINCT fighters and they have a very good all around game. Floyd is more heavy on the defensive side but he's GREAT at that angle....it helps compliment his offense. But the mexican fighters I mentioned have great ability to win in big fights based on being very good in every area but having that great mental foundation that most fighters don't have. Cotto isn't in the same boat at this time although he's a very good fighter himself. Cotto's success in his fight with Manny came by way of PAC allowing Cotto to open up.

Shane's a vet....and he's a fighter who if he wants to survive... he will. Shane gave PAC problems by running...not boxing. His running allowed him to survive but it wasn't effective in winning any rounds.

 

:huh Never seen Floyd anything but business-like in his big fights. Ego outside the ring, sure. Inside it? Not so much. The guy is mentally focused inside the ring when I watch him. Floyd does not bring his "Money" ego in the ring with him.

 

If you link ego with pride, Mayweather shows a great deal of both when hurt. He feels the need to fight back to show his opponent/the crowd he is not hurt.

 

Floyd Mayweather Jr

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Thrown: 2,024

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Thrown: 1,828

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Thrown: 1,330

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Pacquiao

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Thrown: 3,597

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Thrown: 1,778

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Thrown: 3,541

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Exactly. Thanks for taking the time Leon. :thumbsup Not only was Philla wrong, it is not even close.

A 13% jab from Manny? That doesn't bode well for him in a match-up with Mayweather IMO. 13% jab will NOT get it done. :deal

 

Morales landed 33% of his jab totaling at 96 out of 303, and emmanuel only 10% or 34 out of 349.

THe jab stats for emmanuel vs Marquez were pretty one sided too, and not in favor of emmanuel. emmanuel does not have a great jab and lands almost nothing in the department against guys with great boxing skills.

Look for emmanuel's jab connect % to be real close to 0% when Floyd beats him up.

 

I've always said you need a great jab to neutralize Mayweather's speed/timing to beat him. That's why I've always felt Thomas Hearns would have been a nightmare for Floyd. To a lesser degree, I felt Vernon Forrest (RIP) could have beat Floyd at 147 as well.

Tall, lanky, great jab, can box, and KO power.

 

:blah

 

They started their careers off in boxing as much bigger men than him.

I think it's more fair to put him in with Sugar Ray Robinson who started around the same weight division. I have Sugar Ray Robinson beating him.

Pernell Whitaker and Robearto Duran would be extremely challenging for Floyd too.

 

Manny Pacquiao will be scared to death of Mayweather once the opening bell rings. Manny will start out very slow the first round. I say Manny will be scared to death of May because this will be the first real fight he as been in since like 3 years ago. All of his fights going in were top rank guys that he knew was not trying to beat him. Mayweather doesnt like him at all and Manny knows he will be coming to win the fight and that will scare Manny the most. His crutch(Bob Arum fighter) will be gone. This will be a huge factor come fight night. NO MORE smiling and **** at the pressers,face off , or weigh in!!! This will be a Real Fight!!!!

 

Philla ran from this thread real fast