The main reason Pacquiao wouldn't beat Mayweather, is that ....

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  1. Windigo

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  2. KnuckleUp99

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    Well. based on his resume it wouldn't suggest that. It moreso suggest that Floyd hasn't been in with the kind of opposition that wouldn't place him in the position of being tested. Let's be honest....the best Floyd has a very solid resume but it's not great. He's a GREAT talent and supremely skilled but his resume doesn't add up. DLH was his best win...JLC, Shane and a young Corrales are his best opposition. And JLC and DLH gave him fits with their styles yet in none of those fights he had to dig deep.
     
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    I think the main flaw that FMJ supporters are overlooking is that unlike Mosley, Pac will not back out once he get hit.
    Be a little objective here -- Hatton, Cotto, Clottey, Margarito and Mosley all hit Pac with punches far harder than what Floyd can ever throw and Pac still pushed forward with his combination.
    The only time we saw him backout is when Margarito was given two gift shots to the liver.
    You all seem to have this vision of Floyd's pot shots having this insanely stunning effect on Pac. Not gonna happen people.

    And again, Pac's defense is way underrated in this thread.
    He can counterpunch too, he can parry too, he can dart in and out too, he can bait Floyd too.

    I've said this countless times, the only way FMJ will win is he can throw Pac off his rhythm through his jabs (unlikely, because I'm confident Pac's lunges can close the distance quickly) and if he will clinch like hell NOT TRY TO COUNTER every time Pac steps in. That would be suicide for Floyd.
    I have no problem seeing Floyd win through points, but all these Floyd will KO Pac talk is utter nonsense.
    Pac's workrate is nothing that FMJ has ever seen. And you've all seen how uncomfortable FMJ gets if he gets pressured nonstop.
     
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    he can't box flat footed.
     
  5. AnthonyW

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    Hatton hit Pacquiao harder than what Floyd can ever throw? Clottey hit Pacquiao harder than what Floyd can ever throw? When?

    There is also a fairly good chance that Mayweather's "potshots" could have a stunning effect on Pacquiao, especially if Pacquiao jumps in and walks onto a shot he doesn't see.
     
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    We haven't seen Pac win rounds late doing this either. So it's an open issue for BOTH fighters.
     
  7. KnuckleUp99

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    As of late....no. You're absolutely correct but the "question" of whether or not he has it in him to overcome extreme obstacles in the ring have been answered many times in the past. We'll learn a lot about floyd and his mettle when and if he faces Manny.
     
  8. Sweet Jones

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    You are confusing Shane's being ineffective and inactive on offense with being out of range.

    The videos don't lie, no matter how much you want to spin it. Using that logic, Marquez 'ran' too, as he is engaging at the same distance as Mosley was:

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiAAaHuu_-Q[/ame]


    Come on, man. :verysad
     
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    yep and watch round 8 and 10
    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4FEoDH90oc[/ame]
     
  10. Sweet Jones

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    As has been presented already, Mayweather has won fights with injured hands, shoulders, and ribs. YOU have already acknowledge this when you stated it didn't fit your shifting 'dig deep' definition.

    So what about his 'mettle' or 'overcoming extreme obstacles' are you questioning? Exactly what 'extereme obstacles' has Pac overcome that outweigh what Mayweather has overcome in the ring. Explain why Pac 'overcoming extreme obstacles' can serve as proof of his abilty to 'dig deep', but Mayweather's can not.

    Come on, man. :-(
     
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    is that floyd won't fight Pac?
     
  12. KnuckleUp99

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    LOL..... It's funny how you can say I'm spinning things when you are actually trying to find ANYTHING to give Shane credit for in his performance against Manny.:lol: God bless you for trying!

    Marquez BOXED! He wasn't running like Shane where he was OUT of range to land his shots on PAC. Shane wasn't trying to win....he was trying to survive and that's the big difference. By you claiming and spinning "USAIN" Mosely's performance as being anything close to effective is laughable.
     
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    PAC's been in the trenches...he's been in wars, he's shown the ability to overcome adversity when he's in a close battle where it comes down to the last round. EVERY FIGHTER HAS INJURIES! They fight through pain and that shows physical toughness.

    PAC's answered the questions on his ability to work through grueling fights where he's bleeding out, can't see...PAC's show the ability to stay composed and calm in the face of adversity when it matters most. Floyd on the other hand has never had to answer those questions in the ring. Partly accredited to his ability and skill and the other accredited to facing opponents who don't present challenges.

    The guys who offered Floyd his most difficult challenges like DLH and JLC were the only times Floyd really stepped up and challenged someone on his level.
     
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    :rofl:rofl