Justifying Martinez above Donaire p4p.

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  1. MichiganWarrior

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    Name one fighter who had a better resume at middleweight ******. Pirog? Sturm? Macklin? Seriously just one. :rofl

    Paul Williams was in the top 10 P4P, and was going to challenge Pavlik for the main title before PAvliks injury


    Did you start following boxing 3 months ago?
     
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  3. ApatheticLeader

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    DLH: Top fighter, poor middleweight.

    JMM: Top p4p fighter, ineffective at welterweight.

    Carrying too much weight affects even great fighters, making them look worse than they actually are at a more natural weight. Thus the p4p concept - thus why it's inapplicable in this thread.

    Simple enough for you?
     
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  4. ApatheticLeader

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    Better middleweight resumé than Williams? EVERYBODY!!!!!

    Than Pavlik? Nobody.

    Stop talking about p4p and come up with something relevant, moron.
     
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  6. MichiganWarrior

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    DLH was not in the top 10 P4P.

    Marquez had never fought at welterweight in his life. Jumped 2 weight classes.

    Paul Williams fought as many times at 160 as he has at 154 in the last 3 years.


    Could you find an even worse comparison fruit cake? :rofl

    Paul Williams victories over Martinez and Wright are better then any wins he's had at 154.

    Yep you're a ***.
     
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  7. MichiganWarrior

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    Name them. Go through the middleweight top 10 and name which fighters have beaten the quality of Martinez or Wright at middle.
     
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  8. puertorricane

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    lol been saying the same **** for the longest, all list no matter how you look at them are subjective to the person where he comes from what era he's from who is he a fan off you'll never have a list that everybody agrees with

    :hat
     
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  9. Blizz42

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    Off what list, the pfp list?
     
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  10. ApatheticLeader

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    A resumé is two fights to you? One of them a hugely inactive fighter? How sad.

    You confuse name power with actual ability, like most fans.
     
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  11. MichiganWarrior

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    Like I thought. You cant do it. :-(
     
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  12. ApatheticLeader

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    Why am I getting bogged down in this circular BS (even if you have just agreed with me i.e JMM). Nothing you've said changes the fact that Donaire has done more. And stop naming Wright as a great victory, as if he had won a fight in the 28 months before fighting Williams.
     
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  13. ApatheticLeader

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    Anybody. Barker, Pirog, Sturm, Geale, Golovin.

    You said resumé, not best single win. Your bad.
     
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  14. MichiganWarrior

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    So Barker, Pirog, Sturm, Geale and Golovkin have beaten have wins over fighters as quality as Martinez(considered the man and lineal titlest at 160) and future ATG Wright who while faded, had never been dominated before? :rofl



    Danny Jacobs? Err robbed against Oscar de La Hoya? Who have the rest beaten? :lol::lol:
     
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  15. lufcrazy

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    Fuk michigan is on to something here. I had martinez winning a close fight, close but clear imo.

    There isn't a mw active who can boast anythin as good as a close loss to martinez (which he got the decision for) and a victory over winky (the first man in over 12 years to clearly beat him). No mw compares with that apart from martinez himself.
     
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