The main reason Pacquiao wouldn't beat Mayweather, is that ....

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  1. aka TORA

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    this_and_that Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Fair enough, but of course you understand that I was exaggerating to highlight my points.
    And there's something you missed there; FMJ CAN KO Pac, I understand that, but if he creates a gameplan around that, then he will hit the canvass quick and won't know what hit him.
    So will we see FMJ trying to KO Pac? I don't think so, unless Pac is seriously hurt (like how he tried to finish Molsey off when he thought he hurt him in round 1).

    Call me a ******* if you will, but Pac's chances of KO-ing FMJ is higher than the other way around; and even as Pac fan, I don't give Pac a big chance of KO-ing FMJ either.
    The only way Pac can win is if he will be able to win the earlier rounds (very likely) and then make sure that FMJ won't be able to solve his puzzle in the middle rounds (by a combination of reacting to FMJ's adjustment and intelligent boxing like what he did against ODLH -- very unlikeley, unless Roach makes a boxing genius out of Pac), and remain relentless until the late rounds (that, Pac can do).
    He should take advantage of his awkward style to delay FMJ from timing him.
    He should not give FMJ breathers, he should always be trying to engage. That's crucial here. You give FMJ 10seconds and he is already looking like new. (and I think this is the root cause of the whole PED issue, Mayweather can have trouble if always put under intelligent pressure, something Pac can give the full 12 rounds)
    Even if FMJ takes the later rounds, it would be too late to win on points.
     
  3. AnthonyW

    AnthonyW ESB Official Gif Poster Full Member

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    :good

    I agree, I wouldn't expect Mayweather to set up a gameplan to try finish Pacquiao before the final bell. He will be preparing and expecting to go 12 hard rounds.

    Again, I agree...even if he has Pacquiao hurt, I'd expect Mayweather to be wary...Pacquiao comes back strong once hurt, and steps it up quickly (Mayweather does the same also).

    The facts and recent fights show that the more likely scenario is that Pacquiao has a higher chance of KO-ing Mayweather.

    I have always expected Pacquiao to pick up the early rounds (since this fight has been talked about, I have expected Mayweather to struggle with Pacquiao's speed early)...IMO Mayweather will get his range in the middle rounds, this is were Pacquiao needs to step up the activity level, and make sure Mayweather doesn't also. Both men can win on points, or via late stoppage IMO (although I'm expecting it to be via points either way)...I have Mayweather as the slight favourite at this point.
     
  4. Xerant

    Xerant Gotta Hate negociations! Full Member

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    Last time I check floyd had the best % in boxing history can u show me your stats?
     
  5. Xerant

    Xerant Gotta Hate negociations! Full Member

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    You got some serious IQ issue man. Be carefull man. Thinking like that will end up giving u lots of headache. Dont hurt yourself and pick up golf.
     
  6. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Watch Morales use the shoulder roll in round 3

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TJEUCCcX58[/ame]
     
  7. PH|LLA

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    I didn't say connect % I said the ratio of punches landed to punches received. I call it the "hit and don't get hit" ratio.

    If you take the average ratio for Pac's last five fights, it's better than Floyd's last five fights.
     
  8. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    well we're talking about the percentages and Floyd last 5 fights have all went past 10 rounds.
     
  9. gooners!!

    gooners!! Boxing Junkie banned

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    Man I've created a monster Lol
     
  10. Blizz42

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    Pacquiao can't fight flatfooted against Floyd, and beat him.
     
  11. Kid Cubano

    Kid Cubano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    the endless controversy
     
  12. Chrisgabriel

    Chrisgabriel Active Member Full Member

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    The main reason is that the midget wont fight because he doesn`t want to take the fuc*ing test.
     
  13. Blizz42

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    He won't beat Floyd when he is turned flatfooted by Floyd.
     
  14. igor_otsky

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  15. Leon

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    Talking with philla is like watching Floyd beat up manny. You and Floyd will always be accurate, philla and emmanuel keep on missing.

    Floyd Mayweather Jr

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