Matt Serra. How good is/was he?

Stop feeding the troll. Guy doesn't understand what 'fluke' means and isn't interested in learning. Yawn.

 

Yawn indeed
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If GSP and Matt Serra fought each other 20 times after that 1st fight, I'd back GSP to win all 20 of them.

BUT, that doesn't mean Serra's win was a fluke, because there was no intervention of luck that put ability in the backseat and had an unalterable influence on things.

Therefore, by definition, it wasn't a fluke. It was an upset, it was not a fluke. There's a very clear and actually rather obvious difference.

For all further enquiries, consult the definitions Stoo has already posted.

 

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Do you know what the word "chance" means in this context? I'll give you a clue, read the rest of the sentence it first appears in.

Serra meant to hit GSP in the skull. He aimed. He unleashed. He succeeded.

There is NOTHING whatsoever that can be attributed to "chance" here. Nothing.



Some people are so far behind in the race they think they're leading. :rofl

 

That's not the punch that started it because that one was a wild ass hook that hit the back of his head as he ducked. Nice try, though.

 

So, there was no element of luck in Serra's first punch hitting the back of GSP's head as he ducked and setting him up for the barrage to follow? If it wasn't luck then why wouldn't you give it a significant chance to happen again? Luck is success or good fortune owing more to chance than one's own actions and it was a chance occurrence that that sloppy hook landed where it did and had the effect that it did.

If this was a noted striker with a history of KOing fighters it wouldn't be luck. Serra has two stoppage wins. If Serra had noticed a fatal flaw like Schmeling did with Louis' jab it wouldn't be luck but that didn't happen, either. Rather, Serra stood his ground and threw wild hooks against a bigger and better striker and one managed to land.

I can see we're at an impasse as you've tried to insinuate that I don't know the definition of the word "fluke" and failed, then you tried to say that there was no luck in this victory and I refuse to agree with that. If you can find the clip of the first punch that lands on the back of the head and you can show me how Serra is using superior technique to land it, I'll accept that there was not a single element of luck but until then we're going to have to agree to disagree.

 

Quite right and here it is

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Now to me that looks like GSP is distracted by the jab, didnt see the punch coming until it was too late to get out of the way and ducked his head which lead to the forearm hitting the back of the head

So I guess Serra is lucky he ducked as he may have hit him on the chin instead , and that GSP didnt move out of the way quick enough too make Serra miss.

Well, that's me told. We will simply have to agree to disagree I guess

 

Yep - and that ain't just luck. You could describe Serra as having a lucky night if looking at their respective total careers but on the night Serra simply fought better.

Serra was an excellent fighter a bit short of HOF consideration IMO.

 

Well its quite clear that he should be a lightweight but still has a tonne of success at 170. That says it all. He has heavy hands and good jits.

 

Serra seems like a hell of a nice guy and is obviously a good coach, but you guys are really overrating him here. "He was beating Shonie Carter before he lost" isn't much of a statement considering where Carter is now and, honestly, was then. "He had a tough fight with BJ Penn years ago" also doesn't make someone a top fighter. Neither does "almost" beating Parisian. Neither does "almost" beating Hughes because of a headbutt that gave him the first round. For all of his grappling accolades before MMA, he has what, one sub in the UFC against a guy in his only UFC fight?

Look at it this way: How many of the top guys at 170 now would you pick him to beat now or even in his prime? He just got totally owned by Lytle who, though cool to watch is a middle of the pack guy. Would Serra beat Kos? Alves? Rumble Johnson? Condit? I don't see him beating any of those guys. I'd like to see him fight someone like Hardy, to be honest, as I think that's about the level he's at.

And yeah, his KO of GSP was a fluke. Continue to have stupid arguments about semantics all you want, but GSP beats him 95/100 if not more. GSP outstruck him in the rematch (as much as that matters) and owned him on the ground.

Someone likened Serra to Gatti; I see him more as an Ingmar Johanson type guy. He's known for winning one fight that surprised everyone and then losing to the guy he beat, not for beating lots of top guys over a long period and being known as a consistent top contender.

 

matt serra was a legend in the UFC and has been in wars with matt hughes, gsp, chris lytle and bj penn.

 

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**** off. Attention whoring trolls need not respond to my posts.