24 yr old Hatton vs 24 yr old Khan who do you have?

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  1. Boxmaster

    Boxmaster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Physically him and Floyd are equals. It was the defensive skills that Floyd had which won him that fight.

    Hatton was going blow for blow with him, I saw the fight. It was the fact that Hatton had no defensive skill and Floyd had defense that made the difference. Floyd wasn't faster, didn't have better footwork, wasn't strong, this says a lot about how gifted Hatton was athletically.

    It's just Hatton never learned to move his goddamn head.
     
  2. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    Stopped reading here.
     
  3. Boxmaster

    Boxmaster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If you are going to judge Hatton why don't you watch his career?
    Why don't you post a URL to the Floyd Hatton fight. Show me how Floyd out muscled him, out quicked him or anything like that because I didn't see that.

    Floyd did beat him, did knock him out, but it was Hatton's fault. It was because of what Hatton wasn't doing, not because Floyd was some remarkable athlete that Hatton couldn't compete with.

    If it were a matter of Stamina Hatton has Stamina as good as Floyd, hands as quick as Floyd, the full range of punches from body shots to hooks to jab. Floyd simply had head movement and timing. He was not dominating Hatton.

    Pacquiao it was a different story. Pacquiao was clearly faster, but not by much. And Pacquiao beat Hatton because Hatton had no defense. He took advantage of Hatton's only real weakness, the fact that Hatton does not move his head.
     
  4. Boxmaster

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    Look at their bodies, and the actual fight, physically and athletically they are equals.

    It was Floyd's technique that won him that fight. He was actually more worried looking in this fight than anyone else he ever fought in my opinion, even more than the Mosley fight.

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uACoHbaB61c[/ame]
    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imWvM3XPleg[/ame]
     
  5. scurlaruntings

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    :lol: On the contrary iv been watching boxing for a loooong time buddy. And iv watched dam near every one of Hatton's fights. Be my guest if you want to call me out on that though.

    You think Hatton is an equivalent of Floyd? That's pure hogwash. You only have to look at Ricky's early career and his umpteen defences of the WBU to know what level he is/was. Back then he was still considered a prospect after 30 summi fights BECAUSE he fought a steady stream of nobody's. Meanwhile Floyd had won the WBC title in his 17th fight.

    Like iv said im more than happy to discuss both men's careers when you're willing to talk facts. Instead of your subjective twaddle.
     
  6. Arran

    Arran Boxing Junkie banned

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    Did Hatton get sponserd by Apple or something?
     
  7. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    You know the drill Arran. I spent years watching through all that drivel SN put on and paid a handsome SKY subscription for "World Tidal" boxing. Most British fans back then wanted to see the only fight that mattered domestically which was Witter Hatton that Ricky and Frank promised. Ricky deliberately took the path of least resistance to a title whilst turning down shots at the EBU WBO and WBA on his way. Absolutely Hatton should be vilified for his opportunistic career. And i will call a spade a spade. Iv yet to see ONE point from any Hatton fan that can dispute any argument iv made. The fact's are the boy was a fraud.
     
  8. Arran

    Arran Boxing Junkie banned

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    im a big witter fan...but hatton would have dominated him back then when he was 25, absolutely smashed him. And you say he took the path of least resistance yet he fought the two best off the decade, lost yes, but at least he went out on his swords, especially these days when we have people ducking all the time ike Dirrell, Bradley etc Yeah he probably got more publicity in the UK than he should, but at least he brought boxing to the main stream.
     
  9. Boxmaster

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    Watch the videos. Hatton was winning the first 2 rounds by being physically stronger and faster than Floyd. Floyd didn't start to win until he started using his technical skills, his defensive skills and his timing.

    Which proves that Hatton is as much of a natural athlete as Floyd, but Floyd is just the better boxer.
     
  10. scurlaruntings

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    Well never know though because the fight never happened. Personally i think Witter would have stood him on his head. And asbolutely he took the path of least resistence. He was the mandatory for the EBU WBO and WBA. Every one of those opportunity's he turned down. Urkal, Harris Corley and Pinto. Why? Because everyone of those opponents represented too much risk for too little reward. Hence why he never fought Witter lest he upset his gravy train.
    Which boxer do you know has turned down that many opportunitys for a world title shot?
     
  11. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    I don't need to watch anything. Iv watched that fight many times. I know what i saw and it's not what YOU see. Floyd put on a clinic. End of story end of discussion.
     
  12. Boxmaster

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    Yeah? That is why he lost the first 2 rounds? I bet you think Floyd put on a clinic against Judah also.

    Floyd won both those fights by making technical adjustments, by having a higher ring IQ.
     
  13. PUNCHDRUNK

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    Harsh but true, Hatton's career was a lot of smoke & mirrors. His signature wins are a semi-retired post prime Tszyu and a shot Castillo who was looking to cash-out. A lot of his fans seem to define his career by his losses against Mayweather & Pac ad not by his wins...... As for Ricky's prime (the WBU years), anybody can look like a p4p elite fighting domestic journeymen & bums.
     
  14. Thom

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