Floyd Sr: "Pacquiao can’t be in the Philippines and take random tests"

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  1. Samski313

    Samski313 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    First off not a hero of mine second its not tough because Floyd unlike Manny speaks for himself and has came out and said Pacquiao is his next fight! Floyd has never changed his stance on the issue from day 1. Manny is the one who ducked Floyd by turning down 14 days to fight Clottey 2 days later. Now Manny is changing his tune and thinking about saying yes to random ohhhh but wait now they dont like usada which we didnt hear about the last 3 years. I call bull**** on mannys part and he needs to speak up and quit hiding behind Arum's lies.
     
  2. CoDer

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    :hey
     
  3. Green Man

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    WTF is this crackhead talking about?

    That **** doesnt even make sense.

    Seems like Floyd's sperm is getting to your brain.
     
  4. Samski313

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    You keep saying what Arum said then you say Floyd need to come out and accept Arums conditions!!! Dont you find it odd that you have no say from Manny on all of this. If Floyd needs to come out and address the Arum condition then Manny needs to come out and address of the issues including Arum's condition also and why they feel usada is no good.

    Can we please hear from the Champ Manny????????? Thats all i am saying sir!
     
  5. bandeedo

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    both arum and pac have said on video that they are ok with random testing with no cut off but ****** ass floyd and his ****** ass fans choose to act like pac has to call the associated press and make it all official for you clowns to believe it. meanwhile floyd can tell you on u-stream that his dick is 2 feet long and you clowns will spend 3 months singing about what a small dick pac has. birds of a feather.
     
  6. paulfv

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    Right.

    The supposed "trump card" for Team Mayweather this entire time has been that Pacquiao would not accept full testing with no cutoff date. Now, Arum has called that bluff.

    What are we hearing from Mayweather?

    "Take the tests."

    Arum said Pacquiao will take the full test. Demand met.

    Now, will Mayweather move off the USADA? We'll see. But until that time comes, we'll keep hearing "WADA doesn't do tests. LOL!"

    When the walls close in, sometimes people get a bit repetitive or nonsensical. That may be the case here.
     
  7. Samski313

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    And it seems like you got a bad case of Dickbreath!!!!
     
  8. paulfv

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    Arum represents Pac. If Ellerbe wants to come out and say "Floyd will move off the USADA to make the fight happen," that's good with me. Doesn't need to be Floyd himself.

    You want to know what's likely to happen, I think?

    Floyd waits until he watches Pac-JMM to gauge where Pac is at. Does Pac look like he's slipping, as he may have looked against Mosley?

    I think this issue will remain clouded until that time. On purpose. Hopefully, I'll be wrong.

    Arum clearly said Pac will do full testing. The ball has been advanced. The "WADA doesn't test" stuff seems to be just a smokescreen. Ball's in Floyd's court, we'll see if and when he decides to pick it up.
     
  9. Samski313

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    You keep ducking the issue like Pacquiao is ducking the Press. Manny has said nothing about the Mayweather call out or the testing since the new arum condition has come to surface. All i am saying is i would like to hear from Manny himself on whats the latest developements and if he is scared of Floyd since Floyd called him out 3 weeks ago. Do you not want to hear from Manny instead of Arum????
     
  10. Symphenyceo

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    My thing is its not up to either party though. Arum's demand took it completly out of everybody's hands. Is Arum telling Mayweather "anyyone except USADA" or is he telling WADA "anyone except USADA"?

    If im not mistaken (i could be) doesnt WADA appoint an agency from the country the event is taken place in? Arum's whole issue was american based USADA would be bias against Pac because he was not an american. Well does he want an agency outside the US or from the US just not USADA?
     
  11. illwill007

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    I call bull**** on both sides. Arum knew that USADA would be the agency used, and SR. knew that Pacquaio trains in the Phillipines. So why are we just now hearing these new issues from both sides. Neither side wants this fight. Next its gonna be a purse issue!
     
  12. CoDer

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    Well Sr. spill the beans regarding USADA...
     
  13. Samski313

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    See here you go with you hypothetical situations. I dont want you to tell me how something might go i want to hear from Manny himself. The whole we dont want usada to do the test is the Biggest Smokescreen in the world. The Ball has been in Manny's court for 3 years now and they have flipped flopped more than a fish out of water on the issue. I see you have no problem with this wada thing just now becoming an issue 3 years later. Come on man dont be so naive! Wake Up Please!
     
  14. Samski313

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    SR doesnt represent Floyd and is just his Father. He has nothing to do with the fight being made or negotiations period. He gives Floyd tactical ideas for a fight and support as a father thats it.
     
  15. paulfv

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    Just as Mayweather went beyond normal fight rules to ask for full testing for Pacquiao, exceptions can be made for particular fights. It's up to Pacquiao and Mayweather to make the guidelines for the fight, as Floyd did with asking for full testing.

    The biggest issue for bringing in another agency, it would seem, is that the "home" agency loses money for not conducting the tests. So, pay the USADA money. That's covered.

    It doesn't matter who Arum is telling "anyone but USADA." Again, WADA's job is to oversee regulations for testing and certify qualified individuals to test. They don't have a stake in who does the testing, except possibly to make sure the "home" team gets paid if the testing gets done on their turf. That issue can be taken care of, and another group can be brought in.

    There was no basis, at all, for Mayweather to want to test Pacquiao. But that didn't matter. Team Pacquiao agreed to the demand. Is Arum justified in doubting the USADA? I don't know. But it doesn't matter. The USADA issue can be worked around, and probably quite easily, if both sides want to do so.

    In other words, Mayweather's not likely to receive a "Get Out Of Fight Free" card because Big Brother WADA is going to "make" the USADA be the agency to do the testing. WADA would probably be happy to work with what the two sides want, as long as the testing is conducted by qualified individuals and the USADA, possibly, is compensated financially.

    There are no more excuses now for Mayweather. He got the full testing he wanted. Hiding behind WADA won't hold up, no matter how much some try to play the "WADA doesn't test" distraction game.

    There's an easy solution here. We'll see if that solution is implemented.