Well the Boxing Writers Association of America voted him the 3rd greatest fighter of the 2000s behind Pac and Mayweather, and over fighters like Hopkins and Marquez. That's in the history books. I don't know about him being top 100, he's definately NOT top 10, but Joe deserves more respect than he's getting in this thread. Best super middleweight of his era, possibly best all-time. Defended his belt 20 times, picked up all the 4 major straps, the Ring and lineal titles in his reign. In his final defences he stepped up and squashed the challenges of his much hyped young rivals, one from America who was supposed to massacre him, and one from Europe who was supposed to end his reign and take over. How much more comprehensive can you get? Only fighters he missed fighting in his division were notorious German dodgers Ottke and Beyer, and the inconsistent Glen Johnson through injuries. They wouldn't have added much to legacy anyway. Hopkins ducked him from 2001-2006, turning down millions and preferring to fight more popular smaller fighters, so Joe couldn't have done anything about that. This was the same Hopkins that also refused to rematch Roy Jones in his prime which he needed for his legacy, and when it was one of the biggest fights that could be made with fans and media calling for it. When Hopkins finally got the balls for it, Joe got the W to become Ring champ in another division. Again that's in the books, you can't take that away from him. And the fact Hopkins has some legacy enhancing wins both immediately before and long after the Calzaghe fight you can't say he was shot against Calzaghe either. Give the man his proper respect.
This gay guy is one of the biggest hyped bums in the history of the sport. Absolutely no young boxer will attempt to imitate his flailing womanly style, and fear of fighting the best fighters available. If anyone associated with this bum is to placed within the Top-10 of any list, it would be his manager, Frank Warden (sp!) the greatest hype promoter of this era who saw his prime meal ticket, Calzaghe, fight every dishwasher and garbage man in London.
You are a ****ing ******. Sven Ottke was 40-0, no blueprint. Is he an ATG!!!??? You are so stupid there are not enough world to descrive how utterly thick as **** you are
You want 29 boxers, you got it Sugar Ray Robinson Sugar Ray Leonard Jimmy Wilde (best Welsh boxer of all time, sorry to dissapoint you) Henry Armstrong Joe Louis Willie Pep Roberto Duran Julio Cesar Sanchez Artchie Moore Marvin Hagler Larry Holmes Oscar De La Hoya Tommy Hearns Ted Kid Lewis Marco Antonio Barrera Floyd mayweather Junior Manny Pacquiao Jake LaMotta Benny Leonard Harry Greb Muhammad Ali Ezzard Charles Sam Langford Charlie Burley Forest Whitaker Alexis Arguello Arron Pryor Eder Jofre Ike Williams Barney Ross You asked for 29, I've just given you 30 To put Calzaghe in with these calibur fighters is a disgrace to boxing. Read that, eat **** and **** off. :smoke
And he hasn't even mentioned the likes of gans, walker, flowers, ketchel, tunney and many more. If someone sat down and made a top 100 list then yea joe would struggle, especially once the s6 is over.
The Sugar Joe haters STILL can't even accept that he whupped Hopkins! Until they do, they're just gonna continue going around in circles in these unwinnable debates, accidentally bumping heads with each other :fight!::-(. The thread starter was clearly on a wind up....and the haters took the bait without even thinking :deal . Sugar Joe beat Hopkins :happy:bbb:blah:hi:. Accept it, deniers, and you then may be able to get on with your lives :yep.
if hopkins is so great and better than jc why didnt he beat him, and why did he flat out refuse to fight him when they where in their primes ?? because he cant beat him thats why. and if jc s victory is over a past it bhop stop givin hop credit for winning but cant give him any discredit for losing. jc is top 10,tell me a man who can beat him,hes never lost a fight ameture or pro,tell me someone else who hasnt,he should be damn wel top 5 at least !!
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Indeed! Good point I couldn't be bothered putting Hopkins and RJJ on it too, would open up yet another stupid debate.
Really!!!??? I'm not commenting anymore, you've now said he is top 5 ATG. You can't be that stupid, you must be taking the ****.
atsch You dont know anything. ANYTHING about boxing. Heres a tip before signing into ESB go on youtube and have google open as another tab, type in Archie Moore and study his career, and the watch some of his fights on youtube. Repeat with every top fighter in history. And then go shower