Irish Boxing

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by ardy, Dec 19, 2007.


  1. Jonny The Hips

    Jonny The Hips Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think they thought he was having a go at the Irish and the travelling commuinity! he said it just fired Tyson up more.

    Saw a bit on the brit forum saying McCloskeys stock raised a bit considering what Khan did to Judah? what ya think?
     
  2. tony mush

    tony mush Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    did u see me sunday at knockan i spend a couple hours hosting a singsong including that song a few times :lol::lol:
     
  3. Jonny The Hips

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  4. willmc83

    willmc83 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Having watched Fury - Chisora I think Fury could really benefit from spending time with Manny Steward. He clearly has decent power but it looks like he's not capable of getting full use out of that jab, he threw some decent hooks that were sufficient to keep Chisora at bay but he doesn't seem to have the devistating power to knock out fighters at Chisora's level or at least capitalise on his power to knock them out. I think Fury will improve as a fighter and I think he's right to play it cautious at the moment but I actually think Rogan could be all wrong for him.
     
  5. sportofkings

    sportofkings Boxing Junkie banned

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    Rogans best days are behind him I think.
     
  6. ardy

    ardy UP THE IRISH Full Member

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    nutter Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Frampton Prepares For Stiffest Test In Martinez

    Story by Stephen Moore / Photo by Brendan Galbraith |
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    Carl Frampton will take to a major stage for the first time in his fledgling career, as he prepares to take on reigning champion Kiko Martinez for the EBU Super Bantamweight Title, on the undercard of Paul McCloskey's showdown with Breidis Prescott on September 10, at the Odyssey Arena in Belfast. The 24-year-old Belfast native's career, under the expert tutelage of Gerry Storey Sr. and Barry McGuigan, has been on a steady upward curve since he made his professional debut two years ago. Now he is putting his unbeaten record and reputation as one of the hottest prospects in the business on the line after only ten fights, as he prepares to take on the man who made his name with a first round demolition of Bernard Dunne in 2007.

    Frampton will go into this fight with 6 stoppages in his 10 outings, only amassing 39 rounds as a pro. McGuigan has ensured though, that his protégé has had some decent tests along the way. He’ll be in with a fighter who is universally recognized as one-dimensional. Despite that fact, and despite being only a year older than Frampton, the Spaniard has had much more fight experience. His record reads 25-3-0 with 18 knockouts, and he has not been stopped in any of his defeats.


    The fight has been oft mentioned over the last 12 months, and it was only a matter of time until it was made. Martinez is not a box office draw in his native country, so he has had little choice but to campaign on the road to cash in on his EBU crown, which he reclaimed with a ten round stoppage win over a faded looking Jason Booth in April.


    It will be tough task for Frampton despite the fact he is clearly the more skilled of the two fighters. Martinez is teak tough, and has never really been dented in any of his fights. Frampton does possess explosive power but he will need to rely on his skills to wrestle the crown from the grasp of the Spaniard. Martinez will come forward and throw his trademark wide hooks and look to apply pressure from the off. It was this early blitz that accounted for Dunne in the most noteworthy victory of Martinez' career, but since he found the headlines with that knockout there is no mystery in his approach for prospective opponents.


    He lost his EBU crown to Rendall Munroe on a split decision, before falling to a wider points decision when he attempted to take his title back against the Leicester bin man 12 months later. Martinez faded badly in the second half of that fight and does appear to have some stamina issues. If this problem raises its head again at the Odyssey Arena it will play right into the hands of the highly-skilled Frampton. Martinez' other loss came in an IBF eliminator against Takalani Ndlovu, which was prior to the South Africans initial unsuccessful attempt to claim the crown against Steve Molitor. Ndlovu has since taken Molitors crown at the second time of asking.


    So for all that is made of Martinez' inherent lack of boxing talent, is that he has only been defeated by high-quality fighters. His resume is padded with some knockout victories over a standard of opponent he should have long left behind, but his punch power is not in doubt. With his excellent punch resistance added into the mix, he will prove a handful for Frampton who is still learning fight by fight.



    Frampton has had the benefit of plenty of high quality sparring in his time as a professional, and that will be as important a factor as any leading into this fight. Choi Tseveenpurev, Jason Booth and John Simpson are just some of the fighters Frampton has crossed swords with in sparring as he strives to sharpen his skills on his march towards a World Title. He will need to heed all the lessons he has learned though, if he is to prevail in the September showdown.


    The Shore Road pugilist has shown no real signs of nerves in his professional career to date. He has headlined shows in his native city, and was top of the bill for a 3 round destruction of Ukrainian stalwart Yuri Voronin last year. It was the premier performance of his career, as he sent his opponent to the canvas early. The fight was waved off as Frampton unleashed an unanswered barrage of punches. His career has progressed well since then, but there were signs of his lack of experience in his last outing, as he defended his Celtic Super Bantamweight Title against awkward Welshman Robbie Turley. Frampton was far too eager to impress in front of the Sky Sports cameras, looking for the highlight-reel knockout from the outset. Frampton won comfortably in the end, but he could have produced a more measured performance if he had taken his time and utilized his superior boxing ability to greater effect. Frampton will need to apply this lesson against Martinez, as patience will be key in his next outing.


    Another possible concern for Frampton may well be his propensity to mark up during fights. Turley never really troubled Frampton or laid any seriously heavy leather on him, but Frampton was heavily marked at the end of his night's work. He was also cut in his previous outing, a 4 round stoppage victory over Oscar Chacin, and it could well be a concern if the trend continues.


    Frampton is capable of boxing on the front or back foot, and he would be well advised to box from the outside against a brawler the ilk of Martinez. Engaging in a macho war of attrition would
    only play into the Champion's hands, but Frampton has shown signs he likes a tear up. Storey and McGuigan will need to have their charge well drilled in his attempt to win the EBU crown.


    At 24, Frampton has his entire career ahead of him, nonetheless a defeat here would be damaging and set him back a couple of rungs on the ladder, in an overcrowded Super Bantamweight scene. Frampton is the superior boxer and if he goes in with the right game plan and adheres to it strictly, then he is more than capable of dispatching the Spanish champion with relative ease. Despite only having 10 fights behind him, Frampton has shown an excellent boxing brain so far. If he can keep a check on his youthful exuberance and not rush in headlong, he should be able to claim a big scalp and set him on the road to World Titles and super stardom. Martinez will be of a different mind though, as he will look to come to Ireland and break hometown hearts yet again. Frampton is unlikely to be surprised by anything that his opponent brings to the table though, and come September 10, he should walk out of the Odyssey Arena with the first major title of his professional career.
     
  8. ó Cuinneagáin

    ó Cuinneagáin Tree hugger Full Member

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    Going to Dudey/Frampton show. I've never been to Odyssey, so what are the seats like? The price ranges are from 155,105,80,65,44 to 33 pounds. I want a decent seat that I can see the fight. (I don't want a 33 pound seat and see nothing). I'm getting a crippling wage cut, so I don't want to spend too much.
     
  9. Derrytucker

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    one of wayne mccullough's old fights on setanta 1 now.
     
  10. ah.sure

    ah.sure Active Member Full Member

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    There's boxing on Eurosport until midnight BTW too. Mendy Bute undercard on now
     
  11. bobalachko

    bobalachko Active Member Full Member

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    Carl frampton will ko martinez in 5 rounds IMO.Should be great fight while it lasts.
     
  12. BamBam

    BamBam The Brick Fist Mafia Full Member

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    bobalachko I like like Carlos in an inappropriate way but even I wouldn't go that far.

    Could you PM the number of your crack dealer please.

    Much love
     
  13. slapbangwhallop

    slapbangwhallop The Sweet Scientist Full Member

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    Everyone on here will be willing Brick Fists well on the 10th (with perhaps a single exception - you know who you are!) but the question that needs to be asked is "has he bitten more than he can chew"?

    It wasnt the convincing performance we all (inc Team Framps - I include Bam Bam in that!) hoped for against Turley and then he jumps into a Euro title fight with a proven fighter that has a. broken our potato laden hearts before, and b. seems to have improved his boxing ability of late as well.

    I am significantly more interested in the outcome of this bout than any other on the bill, or anywhere else in the world in 2011 for that matter and I find myself swimmimg in all the potential possible outcomes and ways this fight could go.

    Could any wise-ones wipe the mist from my obscured goggles so I can keep in lane.
     
  14. bobalachko

    bobalachko Active Member Full Member

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    Why:huh Martinez was lucky the night of Bernard Dunne to catch him cold and he beat an over the hill Jason Booth and was beaten twice by Rendall Munroe.Now maybe Im wrong but I cant see the fight going any other way.Just have to wait and see.