Is Wladimir Klitschko unfairly advantaged over his opponents?

This is the most ******ed thread I've seen in some time. And ******s are giving the thread starter credit, and he/she now thinks their smart.

"But their not, you are a ****witt and a bell end"

The heavyweight division is 200 pounds and above, always has been, and always will be. You have short stocky guys, tall slim guys, small fat guys, tall fat guys, fairly tall athletic guys, muscle bound guys, you name it.

All competing to make it abundantly clear who the best type of heavyweight on the planet is.

 

You are a complete ******.

You asked the question..? weather a 5"11 Muhammad Ali with a 76" reach be a world champion.

"Well Muhammad Muhammad Ali would'nt be a heavyweight anymore, and he would probably be a Middleweight or Light Heavyweight...........did you think about that..? you ****ing ******.

Would a 5"11 Usain Bolt be as good a sprinter..?

Would a 5"7 Michael Phelps be as good a swimmer..?

What the **** is you're point..? you have no real point.

This is the most ******ed thread I've seen in some time. And ******s are giving the thread starter credit, and he/she now thinks their smart.

The heavyweight division is 200 pounds and above, always has been, and always will be. You have short stocky guys, tall slim guys, small fat guys, tall fat guys, fairly tall athletic guys, muscle bound guys, you name it.

All competing to make it abundantly clear who the best type of heavyweight on the planet is.

"Stop giving this ****** credit, for being a ******, and coming up with the most ****** excuse making ****** thread of all-time"

 

Yes Wlad has a height/weight/reach/advantage as does his brother and as did Lewis (who has a longer reach)
It's boxing everybody tries to utilise their advantages, if Wlad was smaller he would likely be a very quick heavyweight (considering his speed already) and with smaller reach he would probably be a lot better at in-fighting.
If you start taking away boxers advantages they become totally different fighters. Ali wouldn't have been that great if he wasn't as fast, Foreman if he wasn't as big etc.

 

Lamar Odom was measured in the 1999 NBA Pre Draft Camp at 6'10 without shoes.
If I were going to give the most credibility to any measurement, it would be that one.
They want it accurate, which is why they measure without shoes.

In the same camp, Ron Artest, who is listed at 6'7 by the Lakers,
was measured at 6'5.

 

Thank you. Regardless of their size, these guys have mastered their own style. Would Tyson have been a monster at 6'3? I don't know, probably, but maybe he wouldn't have had that same quick style.

If anyone actually thinks height makes and breaks the top boxers, then they are fools. :guitar

 

How good would YOU be if you weren't 6'7? :deal

The point is the size advantages Wlad has over his opponents is no different to the size advantages Ali, Holmes and Foreman had. There is a misconception that the 70s/80s greats fought guys their own size and bigger most of the time while Wlad only fights smaller guys. The statistics suggest that isn't the case

 

No it hasn't. Was Rocky Marciano 200lbs? The majority of his opponents were cruiserweights. Ali fought quite a few cruisers too if you care to look it up

 

Great thread

 

CW limit was 190 up until 2003. And before CW division was created in 1980 HW limit was 175.

 

It is an interesting question whether Wlads has had a size advantage over his opponents in comparison to past heavyweight champions. I would genuinely want to know the answer to this but the stats you give are nonsence. They are simple snap shots of any given fight and whilst it looks impressive at strat you realise how useless they actually are. If you want to know the answer you need to take an average of all their oppenents and see what the average height and weight was in comparison to their own height. To allow for extremes on either side i would also show median as well as mean. I'm not that interested to do it myself but props to anyone that does.

 

Other rubbish.

A) Boxrec heights are normally wrong e.g. 6'1 eddie chambers is 5'11. Wladimir is actually 6'6 1/2 an inch.

B) Second weight is pointless as a reference of size if one guy is carrying 50 pounds of fat round the waist.

Wladimir actual size advantage is about 20 pounds and 3 1/2 inches over an in shape modern heavy 230 pounds (okay very rare).

Ali fought at 206 to 212 in the sixties, I would estimate the average heavy as a 196 and 6'1 to Ali's 6'2 1/2.

In the seventies Ali often fought at 220 or more, his oppentents were around 205-210 and often a similar height.

Holmes fought pre 1980 at 6'3 1/2 and 210 pounds. After 1980 he came in 220. The average heavy was 6'1 to 6'2 and about 210 pre 1980 and 220 post 1980.

Ali and Holmes were an 1 1/2 inch taller in their youth than the average heavy and about 10 pounds heavier.

Wladimir advantage is about twice Ali and holmes over the average heavier. Wladimir has also made a lot more title defences against rated small heavies for his day. Haye 213, 6'2 1/2, Chambers 196 fighter without the belly, 5'11, Sultan 205 without the belly and 6, Chageav about 6 and just about a natural 225. peters should have been 235 not 250 and is only 6' 1/2 an inch see the James toney fight.