Klitschko vs. Adamek: Tomaszs only hope is to just try and survive!

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  1. lzolnier

    lzolnier Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Do you have some kind of a formula, a futurology calculator, or a tin foil hat on your head, to come up with that figure?
     
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  2. speck

    speck Milky Way Resident Full Member

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    Just that device, it works 67% of the time:lol:
     
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  3. popejking

    popejking Adamek Full Member

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    Didnt you make an avatar bet before Haye-Wlad and lost it? So how can you say that you gave Haye only 20%, when you clearly favored him to win the fight?
     
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  4. PolishPummler

    PolishPummler Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    :lol:
     
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  5. Kalasinn

    Kalasinn ♧ OG Kally ♤ Full Member

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    I'll dig up the posts later where i gave Haye only 20% chance.

    Seriously i never favoured Haye at any point.

    The avatar bet was to support my fellow countryman, i didn't know he would shame the nation with his cowardice.
     
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  6. lzolnier

    lzolnier Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So why are you so down on Adamek? You know very well he won´t wimp out like Haye. The guy who´s article you quote thinks he knows that Adamek will try to do the exact same thing Haye did. Do you honestly believe that?
     
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  7. Kalasinn

    Kalasinn ♧ OG Kally ♤ Full Member

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    Here you go...

    http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showpost.php?p=10063278&postcount=81
     
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  8. Kalasinn

    Kalasinn ♧ OG Kally ♤ Full Member

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    I don't believe that at all. :nono

    I think Adamek will keep coming forward like a brave warrior, never stop trying his hardest to win, but take a punishing beating in the process & get stopped late. What i do believe is, unless Adamek ran like a coward (which he won't), then he is unlikely to see the final bell. Vitali is training insanely hard for this fight, so he might be in the best supremely conditioned shape of his whole comeback, despite his age! :scaredas:

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  9. PolishPummler

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    For a nobody blown up LHW Vitali sure is taking him seriously.Seems he may no more than you and Dan Ambrose do.After all Adamek is a mediocre HW why take him so serious.:deal
     
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  10. PolishPummler

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    It all goes back to Haye.
     
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  11. Kalasinn

    Kalasinn ♧ OG Kally ♤ Full Member

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    Because that tough little ******* is literally willing to die in the ring & is afraid of nothing.

    Goral isn't really a "mediocre" Heavy, he's the sort of "Grade B" at Heavy who struggles in a lot of his fights, because of his style.
     
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  12. PolishPummler

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    Style or size?

    Please do remind us what his HW record is?
     
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  13. Kalasinn

    Kalasinn ♧ OG Kally ♤ Full Member

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    Style & the fact he's a natural lightheavy, hence his power & strength aren't impressive. His height is fine, taller than Brewster & Peter, who both have inflated height stats. When i said "struggle", i didn't mean "lose". I just meant he's been rocked quite a few times, considering his level of competition.
     
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  14. lzolnier

    lzolnier Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    FYI that footage of Vitali is at least 2 years old, Kalafior.
     
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  15. popejking

    popejking Adamek Full Member

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    Thats because of his style and size. His workrate is very high and he is undersized HW. He outjabbed Michael Grant in 12 rounds, who have 11 inches advantage in reach and 5-6 inches in height, but was cut in the process (mostly by Grant's elbows).

    These previous fights showed that Adamek isnt afraid of trading punches against bigger guys.

    And the one very important thing is that Adamek is in constant movement and has a quite good body movement for a HW. He avoids most punches and makes opponents miss. Vitali can have so good stamina and high workrate, because his percentage of landed punches is very high (about 40%). And when boxer misses the punches, then he tires very fast - as missed punch costs you much more energy loss than landed punch.

    Thats the way I see it. If Adamek makes Vitali missing the punches, then he will lower Vitalis workrate and % of landed punches.

    What if Vitali throws "only" 500-600 punches with a 25 % of landed punches?
     
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