Best Japanese Fighter?

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by salsanchezfan, Jul 28, 2011.


  1. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    It's Harada by a long shot..followed by Yoko Gushiken.
     
  2. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Shinji Takehara, of course.
     
  3. natonic

    natonic Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Harada
    Gushiken/Watanabe
     
  4. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Masao Ohba deserves mention..for the tier after Harada and Gushiken.
     
  5. lora

    lora Fighting Zapata Full Member

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    Ohba has a strong argument to be above gushiken.

    Beat more good fighters and did it in an original 8 weightclass while being the man.Never lost his belt in the ring, while Gushiken went out with a whimper after losing to poor opponent, fair enough he wasn't right at the weight and was jaded with boxing, but it's still a half-assed way to go.

    Gushiken is another of those junior weight titlists that cheated themselves by not fighting at the more prestigious weight when they clearly had the build and skills to make a go of it.
     
  6. Stonehands89

    Stonehands89 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Some believe that Harada was the greatest Asian fighter until the recent emergence of another swarmer from another island nation over there.
     
  7. Duodenum

    Duodenum Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yes, and Shirai, along with Ceferino Garcia and Gus Lesnevich, is the only modern inductee remaining in the Ring BHOF who's not also in Canastota. I figure Ceferino's induction is imminent, something to happen in the next couple of years. (Probably next year, with Hearns being the only major new name on the ballot.) Shirai's also already been on the ballot, and my guess is that his cause will be boosted considerably by his Ring HOF status, enough to get him into Canastota sometime in the next five years.
     
  8. El Bujia

    El Bujia Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Definitely. It would appear Gushiken's starting his overrated phase on ESB Classic.
     
  9. lora

    lora Fighting Zapata Full Member

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    Ebihara would be higher for me as well.

    I don't agree with the whoever has the stronger record should rate higher line of thinking, but when you're not too confident A was inherently better than B it is a handy tie-breaker.

    Ebihara had excellent talent, fought and beat stronger opponents, while arguably never being clearly beaten in his prime.

    Gushiken or Watanabe is down to personal choice.no contentious pick there imo.
     
  10. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Won't argue with any of the picks here for best, but will add that Kuniaki Shibata was a favorite of mine. I always love a fighter with an obvious flaw that can compensate for it. His jaw let him down against the big bangers (Hawkins, Sanchez, Villaflor and Escalera) but he could dust himself off and beat on another banger by watching his guard, boxing, then banging (Saldivar, Villaflor I, Arredondo). The dude had class.

    Scartissue
     
  11. Vic-JofreBRASIL

    Vic-JofreBRASIL Obsessed with Boxing

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    How about Koichi Wajima ?
    very good fighter or just good ?
     
  12. Confucius

    Confucius Active Member Full Member

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    Harada. No debate.
     
  13. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Just shy of being "very good" because of his lack of a good chin.
     
  14. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    :deal
     
  15. Confucius

    Confucius Active Member Full Member

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    Not "some." That was almost the universal consensus since the emergence of Pacquaio. And I think Harada was still greater. He was un-beateable at his natural weight (flyweight), and he beat the superior opposition, too.