Why are so many so many people here stupid when nostalgia involved

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Talivar, Jul 30, 2011.


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  1. Talivar

    Talivar Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Why do we get so many stupid comments like Tyson would have KO wlad in 1 or prime RJJ would have KO calzaghe in 2 and so on and on. This relates to all past greats not just the two i mentioned. People seem to only remeber their very best moments and make it sound like this was how they were 100% of the time. The average nights or bad nights are completly forgotten and people seem to gain a very unrealistic view of how they actually were.
    Is it pure bias or plain old nostalgia or stupidity or a mix?
     
    Talivar, Jul 30, 2011
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  2. aka TORA

    aka TORA ☳ Full Member

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    pavlik ko1 SRR
     
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  3. Noam Chomsky

    Noam Chomsky A Source of Emulation Full Member

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    nostalgia just ain't what it used to be
     
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  4. Boom1989

    Boom1989 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Tyson is the most intimidating boxer ever, and Wlad is known to panic when he faces genuine adversity. Seriously, how could Mike NOT win in the 1st?
     
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  5. Arcane

    Arcane One More Time Full Member

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    Nostalgia is a *****, but there's NO DOUBT Wlad's China would have been brutally shattered by 80's Tyson and Prime RJJ would have beaten 7 bells of **** out of Calzaghe.
     
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  6. cesare-borgia

    cesare-borgia Übermensch in fieri Full Member

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    What I dont like is people seriously saying a guy like dempsey would brutally ko vitali for example
     
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  7. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Tyson in 86-88 is one of the fiercest heavyweights in history. 10 years later he was one of the fiercest heavyweights in history.

    Wlad is great, but stylistically he is a lamb to the slaughter put in against frazier or tyson.

    Rjj outclassed prime versions of hopkins and toney. His resume might not do his skill justice but h2h at 168 only a handful throughout history would beat him.
     
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  8. freelaw

    freelaw Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Less or more, I agree. Nostalgia is a big problem for many on here, but both Tyson and Jones should be seriously favoured in these two match ups.
     
    freelaw, Jul 30, 2011
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  9. PowerHoock

    PowerHoock Well-Known Member Full Member

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    frazier?? he would come away with brain damage against Wlad. Frazer is taylor made for him.
     
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  10. dubace

    dubace Well-Known Member Full Member

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    pretty much. maybe they should've of said roy would've knocked him out in two rounds.
     
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  11. Talivar

    Talivar Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Favoured is understandable but come on when in Calzaghes career for example did he ever show signs of being KO in 1 or 2 rounds by anyone. Its that type of statement i mean. Was calzaghe really worse than every fighter that went the distance with RJJ?
     
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  12. cesare-borgia

    cesare-borgia Übermensch in fieri Full Member

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    I dont know man, I could see a scenario where frazier gets inside on wlad, wlad has no inside skills, he could get a left hook to the chin.
     
    cesare-borgia, Jul 30, 2011
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  13. madmanc3210

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    i dont think anyone in history beats a prime jones.
    Agreed on tyson but i dont think frazier takes out wlad if wlad lets the right hand go,tyson had phenomenal head movement and footspeed which ppl tend to over look when judging just how good peak tyson was.frazier was a bobber and weaver but could be timed coming in
     
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  14. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    When he faced a shot to pieces RJJ, RJJ was just that good in his prime, the people that went the distance did so because they fought defensive fights and went into survival mode for the most part and sometimes he toyed with them. The way he decimated top contenders was freakish though.

    You could ask the question 'when did anyone look like stopping Virgil Hill, Malinga or Montel Griffin'? Roy was the first to stop them and blew them out the water
     
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  15. Talivar

    Talivar Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He never looked anywhere close to being KO vs shor RJJ and just because others where swept aside so easy does not mean everyone would be, using this logic are we to think RJJ ko Ward in 1 and Dirrell and Froch ect ect
     
    Talivar, Jul 30, 2011
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