Do you agree with these Tiers Of Greatness for the best MMA fighters ever?

Discussion in 'MMA Forum' started by horst, Jul 31, 2011.


  1. horst

    horst Guest

    A straight yes or no will do, though if you say no then please state why you disagree. :good


    Tier One - The elite

    Fedor Emelianenko, Georges St Pierre, Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira, Anderson Silva


    Tier Two - ATGs

    Dan Henderson, BJ Penn, Wanderlei Silva, Kazushi Sakuraba, Matt Hughes


    Tier Three - The Greats

    Chuck Liddell, Mirko Crocop, Shogun Rua, Rampage Jackson, Randy Couture



    Tiers Four and onwards - Many, many very good and good fighters.




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  2. Stoo

    Stoo Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Yes, good list as always
     
  3. Hoshi

    Hoshi bigboi Full Member

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    I would swap Wanderlei and Liddell. But yes GSP and maybe Silva are there with Fedor and Nogueira now. If Henderson could beat a top lhw and earn a shot at Jones then he would be knocking on the door.

    Also I'm starting to have doubts on Couture.
     
  4. (PimpThaSystem)

    (PimpThaSystem) Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Tier 1 is pretty on point, all the names in tiers 2 and 3 are pretty interchangeable imo.
     
  5. Beouche

    Beouche Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

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    Pretty accurate. Id have Shotgun Rua up a level though
     
  6. horst

    horst Guest

    Fair call :good
     
  7. horst

    horst Guest

    Do you really think Rampage and Randy are interchangeable with Hendo and Wandy? Don't see that myself.
     
  8. Vitor Belfort

    Vitor Belfort Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Bj should be in the elite category:thumbsup Greatest lightweight ever in mma.
     
  9. Anarchy99

    Anarchy99 Babalu will KILL You! Full Member

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    BJ and Couture need to be higher.
     
  10. Stoo

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    BJ's and Randy's record at WW and HW respectively let them down in terms of elite imo
     
  11. MetalMandible

    MetalMandible Chinchecker Full Member

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    No. I'd have Hendo moved one tier up and Liddell and Silva should both be ATG. On a regular rankings list I would have Liddell over Silva because he beat more top competition and his record isn't padded with any straight bums. Also, he beat Silva and though the fight happened too late, it is still indicative of their respective quality because both were shot.
     
  12. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    Not sure i can agree with your tier 2. Dan has accomplished way too much in this sport to not be considered a top 10 ATG or even one of the top guys in the sport. Likewise Silva Sakuraba and Hughes were all incredibly significant and dominant fighters in their prime and were all considered to almost unstoppable. Matter of fact there was a time when Sakurba was considered the best fighter in all of MMA.
     
  13. Stoo

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    I think Saku and Hughes stand up was no where near the level to call them elite. And out of the elite list only Nog's stand up is a real weakness when you compare his to the rest in the elite group's skill set imo

    And on the other side of the coin, Dan really hasnt had a dominant stretch where he was undoubtedly the best in any division he's competed in. But his strength is he's always been in the top 5, but rarely 'the man'
     
  14. MetalMandible

    MetalMandible Chinchecker Full Member

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    And this is why even though I really wanted to move Hendo up one tier I didn't. It's hard to justify when he was never ranked #1 in any division, though he was just a few punches away from being #1 when he rocked Rampage in the fifth round of their bout and failed to follow up.
     
  15. Stoo

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    Yeah, if he'd taken the strap from either Anderson or Rampage, then his already great legacy would have been improved even more

    And to clarify my point about Kazushi and Matt, in their fights with stand up fighters like Wandy and GSP 2 and Pele, they were found wanting. Could argue they were both past prime, but only slightly