If Hagler fought Spinks, would Spinks have stopped Hagler?

maybe he was great in his own division but had never faced off with another great like Saad or Roy Jones Jr

Mustafa Muhammud, severely weakend by a 25 pound drop in weight from his ventures in the heavyweight division with one eye closed went the full 15. I personally gave Eddie the first half of the fight

Little 5-6 Dwight at a 6 inch height disadvantage also went the full route as did Eddie Davis

so you see, the better fighters will always extend Mike and I believe that Hagler at 90% is a definite cut above

amd if I'm wrong then how is that Hagler was voted p4p four straight years and Mike wasnt?

Hagler wins by tko in 13

 

I was going to say your trolling stamina and longevity is world class, but it's way above that. Mere words could never be enough.

 

you going t tell me Dwight wasnt 5-6 and he didnt take Mike 15?

 

After Michael upset Holmes, the sporting press in New England did fleetingly bring up the notion of Marv-Jinx for the HW Title to Hagler, in part because Michael did come in at 170 for Sears not too long before. Marv dismissed it, saying that when he undertook training, "My weight goes right down." He'd run ten miles on the sands of Cape Cod in heavy boots while preparing for a match (disdaining running sneakers as "sissy shoes"), even in the wintertime (when the Cape must have been a desperately dreary and desolate environment). It was commonly known that when Hagler hydrated himself following his weigh-ins, he typically stepped in the ring to compete at around 168 or so.

Maybe if Marv had difficultly making 160, there might have been a glimmer of interest from him, but this never happened, and he held the only title in boxing that was undisputed throughout the duration of his reign, a championship with tremendous prestige. All of Hagler's challengers except Obelmejias were familiar to English speaking television audiences, while three of Michael's last four challengers at 175, Rivadeneyra, Sears and McDonald, were not recognizable names and faces. Therefore, Marv was able to get better defenses. He was also able to aim for Monzon's all time record of 15 MW Title wins. (He didn't reach it, but did set a record of 12 successful defenses of the undisputed championship, which remains in place.)

 

Yeah? You sure? I didn't know he dehydrated at all actually.

 

What more evidence do you really need that the man that couldn't KO Duran and Leonard would stop the man who went the distance twice with Holmes?

You really are the GOAT troll 'Rooster. No one else comes close.

 

What really is fascinating that he all of a sudden can make good posts on subjects that don't concern Leonard, Hagler and Norris.

 

That was an original sticking point in earlier negotiations between Hagler and SRL. Ray's camp wanted Marv to enter the ring weighing 160, stating that Hagler's post weigh-in hydration would see him actually compete closer to 168, something Marv and the Petronellis did not dispute. SRL's camp insisted that 160 be Hagler's maximum weight at the opening bell.

 

I could tell you a lot of things, but they'd be 100% wasted.

 

Got yourself a checkmate there

The fat ladies into the 3rd set.

 

That's because he didn't. It's well documented that the highest he got in his walking around weight was just 164. His spartan training style stripped that off pronto and he actually had to be wary of getting too light too early.

Hagler actually used this as a reason he didn't want to fight Spinks. From memory he mentioned Spinks walks around as a heavyweight (may have mentioned near 200 pounds) while he walked around at basically his fighting weight and the size difference being more than what was visible.

By current weigh in rules and standards Hagler was a small middleweight. I used to laugh when Powerpuncher said Hagler would compete at 154 nowadays, but maybe he's not far off the mark. He seemed very hard and lean at 157-160 tho.

 

Rooster,Hagler is my #2 favorite fighter ever,but no way does he beat Spinks(who is a top 10 personal favorite as well).Mike had a granite chin at 175 and his opposition there was class."Little 5-6 Dwight"(another top 10 personal fav)was a great lightheavy with a granite chin as well.I personally feel that at 175,both Spinks and Qawi beat Jones.

 

I have no doubt that Marv can take out Spinks with his pin point accurate punches, specifically the right hook. Obel was 6-2 and Marvin stopped him with one shot. Hagler is very dangerous expecially when pressed or in trouble

and Spinks yes, he is good too but we are talking 4 time best fighter of the 80s.

I look at it this way, if Hagler's feeling really ambitious, he kicks Mike's ass. If he comes out fiddle faddling like he did w Duran, he loses

On the defensive side,,Hagler does not get knocked out

seems to have a radar for sensing & avoiding punches previously thought only reserved for Benitez

 

Dwight was gr8 for a while, like one year, but fizzled out in the Davis fight and went downhill after that. It's really too bad he had to flake out in the Spinks fight. 1983's dissapointment of the year. Hagler-Duran a close second

 

Dwight lost 2 fights at 175 and drew in his pro debut.He was decisioned in his 3rd pro fight by Davis,whom he subsequently decisioned twice,and,of course,was decisioned by Spinks.In his career,he beat past prime Saad twice,James Scott,Davis twice(didn't he beat his brother,too?I'm not sure),Jerry Martin and Mike Rossman.