The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

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  1. Nekronicle

    Nekronicle Member Full Member

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    What Manny is doing is not even that impressive or 'unnatural' or 'unheard of.'

    I'm finishing up reading a GREAT biography on Harry Greb (The Fearless Harry Greb by Bill Paxton) and what he did is more incredible and 'unheard of' even by todays standards than freaking Manny beating up on shot fighters.

    Greb TKO'd a 200lb Al Bennet, he beat up a 200lb 6'5" Joe Cox, Dempsey ducked him ..and when they sparred a few times Greb dominated him. Greb beat Gene Tunney, Greb fought 45 times in a single year with 0 losses, he fought Middleweights light heavy's and Heavyweights in their prime. He took punches from some of the biggest guys that didnt even phase him at all, among other amazing accomplishments. The reason he was able to do all this was his talent and his ridiculous dedication to the sport.
    So to act as if what Manny is doing is unheard of and impossible with out PED's is ridiculous and stupid and over-rating his accomplishments.

    So, i seriously want to know, in detail why some people think Pacquiao is on PED's when what he is doing isnt as great as people make it out to be


    *note* I like Manny, he's entertaining and skilled nonetheless *note*
     
  2. cesare-borgia

    cesare-borgia Übermensch in fieri Full Member

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    because the mayweather family says so... and because he is awesome for beating up welters as a former flyweight, this was never an issue until mayweather sr brought it up after the hatton fight.
     
  3. TypicalBlackkid

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    I've always thought Margarito and Pacaroids was on something nothing new to me.
     
  4. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Punch output has gone up since moving up in weight which is really unheard of
    Hurting naturally much bigger and stronger men while he was going life and death with smaller fighters at the lower weights
    speed has not really dropped off that much from his lower weights
    Lastly and most important has made every excuse in the book in order to get out of testing
     
  5. the_truth

    the_truth Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Very easy, Floyd requested for random testing and no one made a big deal. Then Manny's refusal and a variety of reason why he wouldnt take one and cut-off dates and this and that made everyone well at least myself have doubts eps. with the amount of money involve. If you are an unbias fan it wasnt Floyds request but Manny's refusal that raise more questions than anything.
     
  6. Boxing Fanatic

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    maybe its because he blitzed cotto even though cotto had a tough fight against margarito. that fight truly stands out like wow, he looks like superman in that one
     
  7. Nekronicle

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    he moved up on weight on paper, he was pretty consistent with his weight in the ring (140 -147lbs)


    "Hurting naturally much bigger and stronger men..."
    and uhh did you not read my first post, Greb was KO'ing 200Lbrs ..and fought 'life to death' with fighters his own size.
     
  8. Rexrapper 1

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    Floyd asked Manny to take a blood test and Manny came up with 5 different reasons not to test until the fight. People will always question you if you say no to a drug test. Some people feel if you dont want to take a drug test, you are on drugs. Just take the test.
     
  9. Nekronicle

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    ya'll are ignoring my comparison to Greb, who did FAR more amazing things than Manny Pacquiao! so to act like Manny is superman is ridiculous
     
  10. Nekronicle

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    and also, not succumbing to demands from someone doesnt make them guilty, Manny and his Team are probably full of pride. to use that as a reason he is on something is once again ridiculous.
     
  11. Juv

    Juv Linsanity is the truth Full Member

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    Greb would've taken a random blood test, too.
     
  12. Nekronicle

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    not to mention Manny could of just been afraid of Mayweather, and using not taking the tests as getting out of the fight.
     
  13. Boxing Fanatic

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    excuses he has made r funny, too. afraid of needles, it weakens me, wanting a cut off date
     
  14. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    X 2

    Haha, what say the TS?
     
  15. tliang1000

    tliang1000 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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