Why is Calzaghe considered a ducker?

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  1. des3995

    des3995 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    This is a wonderfully thought out post. ^ Makes complete sense now.

    Call him butter, because this man is a on a roll.


    I also thought Calzaghe would have been better served to move up to lhw far sooner than he did.
     
  2. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Sour grapes is what it all comes down to. Nobody can accuse Calzaghe of ducking anyone.
    Ignorant people site G Johnson as Calzaghe pulled put against him more than once but Calzaghe pulled out 3 times before fighting Sheika who beat Johnson in his fight before Calzaghe, and Calzaghe pulled put before facing Lacy and look how those fights went :lol:.
    When Calzaghe was ringside with a view to fighting Johnson, Johnson lost to Woods, so Calzaghe didnt duck Johnson, Johnson lost and blew his chance.
    Remember Tate pulled out and retired so Pudwill was a short notice replacement, they forget that.
    Remember Echoles pulled out and retired so McIntyre was a short notice replacement, they forget that also.
    Collins backed out
    Hopkins backed out
    Echoles backed out
    Tate backed out
    Taylor backed out

    But lets not pretend this is true and call Calzaghe a ducker
     
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    The_President Boxing Addict banned

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    Believe it or not, Americans actually have to pay for this short term benefit. It isn't permanent and free like it is in Europe or Israel.
     
  4. DOM5153

    DOM5153 They Cannot Run Forever Full Member

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    :lol:My feelings are so hurt at someone who disagrees with me about Calzaghe, one the most debatable fighter on this forum.
     
  5. Wicksy

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    This is why you have a huge poverty problem, which for a super power is disgusting. Kids growing up in complete poverty as bad as any in a Brazilian Fevela! Also it's why you have a gun problem, drug problem, obesity problem, prison population problem etc etc.

    I love the States, it's a great Country, but to say "no welfare" like you should be proud of it and it creates some great society is ignorant.
     
  6. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    Really? then what was with this weak ass reply?
    "says the person who argues like a child, i have not insulted you, if im wrong im more than happy to admit it."

    Feel free to admit being wrong about this so called three fight skid though...:deal
     
  7. The_President

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    Don't feel bad. The US finances Welfare in both Europe, as well as Israel. Because of the USA, Israelis can go to higher education schools for free. We are the gift that keeps on giving, even with spending cuts. :yep
     
  8. ploys

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    no. cos by that point he was a much much bigger name; able to headline his own cards & get decent tv deals rather than fighting on undercards or in tiny halls. he was fighting guys low down on the totem poll because he was massivelu under-appreciated by the general public (meaning that there was no money in fighting him) partly because he was a bordeline recluse & never promoted himself like hatton did...& he was viewed as a very dangerous fighter that promoters didn't want to put their guys in with; unless they got a nice reward...

    when he was worth something to fight...ie later in his career when he was a money fight...he was able to get fights. when guys like brwer, mitchell & reid were champs; they wanted nothing to do with him. when they had nothing to lose...they chased him & he immediately got in the ring with them.
     
  9. Wicksy

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    You on crack?

    Whole of Europe?
     
  10. The_President

    The_President Boxing Addict banned

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    No, not the WHOLE of Europe, but you can include Russia.:yep
     
  11. Wicksy

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    Mate you really don't have a clue what you're on about.
     
  12. Dorfmeister

    Dorfmeister Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Joe Calzaghe had a lot of domestic fights which were sanctioned by the WBO such as against fellow brits and overrated european, american and australian journeyman after winnning the title against Chris Eubank late in 1997 as a late sub to Steve Collins. From that date on it was Sobot, Ferreyra, Reid, Thornberry, Starie, Woodhall, McIntyre and up until 2002 ( that is five yeras later ) I just give him credit for having faced Sheika and... Woodhall and Reid...Then, he still faced Pudwill, Jimenez, Mkrtchyan, Salem and Veit twice, Ashira and he just started doing something by facing Brewer in 2002 and Mitchell 2003. The Lacy-Kessler-Bika-Kessler-Hopkins ( first time in the US)-RJJ is a period that goes just from 2006 to 2008.
     
  13. The_President

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    Why do you think the US budget is so large. We send money to Russia, Israel, mexico, Brazil, Poland, Moscow, Egypt, and other every single year. These amounts are in the Billions of days.
    For example, we give Israel $8B of welfare payments every single year for the last 20-30 years.:yep
     
  14. HEADBANGER

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    i know what you mean, it just doesn't compare with some of the monsters that got thrown at hopkins, jones, and toney after they became established world champions


    how would calzaghe have faired with the following monsters that got thrown at roy jones

    Fermin Chirino

    Danny Garcia

    Antoine Bird

    Vinny Pazienza

    Tony Thornton

    Eric Lucas

    Bryant Brannon

    Lou Del Valle

    Otis Grant

    Richard Frazier

    David Telesco

    Richard Hall

    Derek Harmon

    Glen Kelly

    Prince Badi Ajamu

    Anthony hamshaw






    lets not pretend calzaghe could have coped with this lot


    robert allan x3

    the irrepressible hakar

    joppy

    echolls

    ornelas

    carl daniels

    howard eastman

    vanderpool

    simon brown

    andrew council

    william bo james

    joe lipsey

    steve frank






    lets not pretend that calzaghe could have coped with the ferocity of opponent that james toney mixed with during his 168 championship reign


    - govoner chavers

    - ricky thomas

    - glen thomas

    - danny garcia

    - larry prather

    - tony thornton

    - anthony hembrick

    - tim littles

    - vinson durham
     
  15. brendo

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    most of which gets spent on weapons, very constructive....