Dwyer breaks down how to beat Maywether Jr.

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  1. Ripper11

    Ripper11 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    there is no way for me to repsond to this other than saying that you don't know **** about boxing
     
  2. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    This post is horrible...

    I respect your opinion IF you had proper facts to back it...

    You dont have proper facts and this is obvious.

    Floyd is very versatile because (just an overview as to why)...

    His footwork allows him to be versatile..he is able to "stand in the pocket" and "fight" or "box" with ya (whichever he chooses dependnig on the opponent),

    or he can "box and move," some call it "running"...

    He can move forward, not using his size, but instead using his footwork to make his opponent step where he wants them and press the action, while moving forward...

    He can fight from a defensive stance or an offensive one...

    He can sharp shoot with his right hand, and does not have to set punches up with his jab.

    His timing is on another level today...Only Pacquiao can match his timing on the offensive, and NO FIGHTER TODAY CAN MATCH HIS TIMING ON THE DEFENSIVE (MAYBE MARQUEZ CAN ACTUALLY).

    I'd say that is pretty versatile:deal:hat

    Question though....If Floyd is not a "versatile fighter" than who is?:huh

    Bell just rung for ya, and debate class is over little guy
     
  3. Genaro G

    Genaro G Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Mosley was shot, Hatton was a tomato can, De La Hoya was old, Baldomir was a bum, Judah got tired, Floyd was given a gift vs Castillo, and Corrales was about to go to jail. When will everyone realise Floyd winning all the time has nothing to do with his boxing ability? *****s. . .
     
  4. Windigo

    Windigo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That is his dimension.

    I've seen him do it. I've seen him do it against fighters that are coming up in weight or are absolutely gassed. I've never seen him do it effectivly against a fighter of equal size who handn't already lost the fight. He does it to show off when the fight is won more than anythign else. The only time he actually took a risk and did it to actually win a fight, Judah, he got ****ing dropped. He is not very good pressuring. As I said before post limitations would prevent the listing of better pressure fighters in just the present much less the history of boxing. He is not a good pressure fighter not even close.

    He jabs to the body to open up the head. That is it. He doesn't work the body. Working the body is not a dimension in his game.

    Thank you for once getting back to his dimension. Controlling the distance and countering. That is his dimension that is what he does well. Dont ever bull**** that pressure fighting is part of his game. The only time he did it to actually win a fight he got dropped.

    What correct game plan. Has he really used such differing game plans since leaving light weight. Sit in the pocket and counter, wait for your opponent to tire. Thats all he does.

    Until I see him actually use a different tactic to win a fight he is one dimensional. Showing off when fighters are already beaten isn't multidimensional its just showing off.
     
  5. Windigo

    Windigo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Thats an easy question Manny Pacquiao.

    #1 He can turn you over and over and never let you get in position to touch him.

    #2 He can trade with you staying at just the right angle that his shots hit harder than yours.

    #3 He can counter just as good as Floyd, but he can counter in bunches and his counters can actually knock welter weights down.

    #4 He can leave himself open and simple beat fighters to the punch as he did with Cotto.

    #5 And quite often he can put up his high guard and rope a dope to let his opponent tire.

    This is true versatility. What Floyd does isn't versatility. Floyd sits in the pocket and potshots. Thats it. He doesn't have close to as many arrows in the quiver as *****s think. Let him try and pressure a fresh welter he will get dropped AGIAN. He is not that good of a pressure fighter.
     
  6. Ripper11

    Ripper11 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    please shut up man. You said Floyd is one dimensional and Pacquiao is versatile :-(
    Log off
     
  7. igotJUIC3

    igotJUIC3 Boxing Junkie banned

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    WOW....unbelievable
     
  8. Ripper11

    Ripper11 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Watch these fights and tell me he's not versatile
    Mixing it up
    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Evm562QLq2M&feature=related[/ame]

    Fighting off the back foot against a big opponent
    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=py1FREnf77o&feature=related[/ame]

    Floyd beating Hatton at his own game
    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-m3EVllpeY&feature=related[/ame]
     
  9. Hitman-Fan

    Hitman-Fan Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It would be

    You're a ******* and you're unable to see Mayweathers greatness
     
  10. Gander Tasco

    Gander Tasco Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    your going a little overboard, but I agree with u that Floyd isn't as multidemnsional as his fanboys make him out to be. He fights in a particular style like anybody else. It's a versatile style, but it's a style. He has habits in the ring like anybody else, and they can be taken advantage of .

    I think it's a misconception that Floyd is this ultimate adjuster in the ring. The truth is he's a bit of a slow starter. He usually takes a round or two to get going, and people misconstrue that as adjustment. The reality is his opponent in most cases simply cant adapt to his speed or his style.
     
  11. rushman

    rushman Devoid is Devoid Full Member

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    Dwyer is a fat ****ing assclown.
     
  12. igotJUIC3

    igotJUIC3 Boxing Junkie banned

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    i kind of agree...the beginning rounds he tends to lose cus he doesnt know what the other fighter is trying to do and he hasnt felt the speed and power f the other fighter.

    Once he does...he then adjusts....once he does this....since Cas I i have yet to see a fighter force him to switch up again....but like the other poster said floyd also shows different tactics after he has figured them out to keep them guessing and uncomfortable. He sets up shots perfectly using different tactics...some of his versatility no?
     
  13. Gander Tasco

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    ya like I said he's got a versatile style. But that's; different then adjustment. You only have to adjust when things arent going your way. Floyd is just a slow starter. He takes a round or two to settle in. A lot of boxers are like that . There aren't many moments when Floyd really had to change up his strategy to win.
     
  14. igotJUIC3

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    i dont think its a drastic adjustment like your refering to...switching up game plans...i thnk its little ones which takes away what the fighter is trying to do and making it harder on the fighter. He does alot of little things during the fight in terms of adjustments...not necessarily a drastic strategy change.
     
  15. Daruf

    Daruf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I wonder if Dwyer got too confident in his own analytical abilities, he seems to overthink things and just gets it plain wrong now.

    Im only saying this because he used to be fairly accurate, over 1.5 year ago or so but nowadays he mostly get his picks wrong.

    Fortunately for the gamblers i guess he still gets his straddles correct but his actual winner picks are just plain dumb.

    He also seems to be very biased against ceirtan fighters.