Amir Khan has a decent chance to Shock the World by beating Mayweather Mid/Late 2012.

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  1. Davew430

    Davew430 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Kotelnik : The worst World Champion Khan could of went for and did. Kotelnik is average, nothing special but not terrible. So no he's not a live opponent.

    Malignaggi : LOL if you can convince me Malignaggi was a live opponent, i'll do something crazy.

    Judah : No, anybody with half a brain cell knew Judah would be dangerous for 2-3 rounds then nothing more. Judah had got a gift v Matthysse and everybody know's that.

    JMM would beat **** out of Kotelnik, Malignaggi and i'd say even Judah, and Shane Mosley, even though it's been well over a year since Floyd has shown him up, would still smash Kotelnik, Judah and Malignaggi to pieces.

    So come on, other than Maidana, who let's face it, is a slow, plodding brawler who Khan had hell with, who has Khan faced who's a live opponent?
     
  2. Vidic

    Vidic Rest in Peace Manny Full Member

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    No :/ I didn't pick Judah to beat Khan.

    And don't give me any of that tripe about it's not tops trumps, if we are not going to take boxers skills or experience (attributes) into account then what should I base my judgment on? Hairstyles?

    And I never said he has no chance. I said unless Khan improves dramatically, and Mayweather has declined dramatically, then Mayweather will win.
     
  3. lazarus20000

    lazarus20000 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    So are you saying that JMM is a live opponent that could beat Khan? What about Morales who is touted as the next fight for Khan?
     
  4. Outboxer

    Outboxer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Floyd is a special fighter. Khan is a good fighter. Even if Floyd was faded, he would probably find a way to win...but the longer he waits to make the fight, the riskier it becomes.

    I actually think Khan is a harder style matchup for Floyd than Ortiz. Ortiz just rushes in throwing bombs -- a pressure fighter with speed and power, but not much of a defence and not hard to consistently land on. If Floyd is his usual self, he'll embarrass Ortiz and make him look sloppy and clueless.

    Khan, on the other hand, has been turned into more of a boxer type -- he stands on the outside, pumps the jab, throws combinations and then moves away. Floyd could have some difficulty ad******g to the speed and the jab, especially considering Khan's height and reach. Another thing is the way he throws combinations and then instantly moves away -- that sort of in and out rhythm with a flurry of shots can be tough to deal with for an older fighter. Floyd has never had a high workrate either, so Khan could steal rounds via his flurries, just like he did against Judah and McCloskey. Floyd's masterful defence will mean that Khan will barely land, but if he throws more, the chances are he'll get the round anyway.

    I was rewatching a bit of Hoya/Floyd the other day, and I think DLH's performance is seriously underrated. He blocked a lot of Floyd's shots, and at one point slipped and weaved and made Floyd miss about 5 punches in a row, a very rare sight. He reminds me of a better version of Khan -- the jab, the combinations, the speed. Floyd made him miss a LOT, but Floyd wasn't doing much either, so it was interesting.

    Anyway, Floyd (even if he's past his prime) should easily be able to deal with Ortiz, and while he might have a few early issues against Khan, he should shut him down too. He's just on another level to these guys, unless he seriously fades.
     
  5. Davew430

    Davew430 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    At the exact time Floyd fought JMM (September 2009 wasn't it?) i'd of picked JMM to beat Khan yeah. Now i'd say different due to JMM getting a bit older and struggling with anything above 135, but at that moment in
    time JMM would of beat Khan.

    Morales aint getting past Matthysse so don't give me that
     
  6. Darni187

    Darni187 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Top posts some great points :good

    As Oscar proved in spots in that fight a good jab troubles Floyd, Khan has a nice crisp fast poweful Jab.

    I can see Khan's speed catching Floyd more than most due to Floyd not bending down but standing side on and slipping shots with his head and hip movement, I would love to see him sliping most of Khan's straight shots.
     
  7. Darni187

    Darni187 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :lol:
     
  8. lazarus20000

    lazarus20000 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Not sure that JMM has deteriorated that much. If they both fought at 135 back in 2009, then JMM would beat Khan to a probable TKO. Actually i think he would have given Floyd a much harder fight if they were both at 135. It's just JMM is less affective about 135.

    As for Morales, i ain't giving anything, its just a lot of people are matching Khan up with Morales thinking he would get past Matthyse.
     
  9. elTerrible

    elTerrible TeamElite General Manager Full Member

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    blue print on beating Khan was already given by Maidana. Khan dont like inside pressure. Khan is a beast on the outside.

    Mayweather was bigger / stronger than Mosley who comes in at 160. Mayweather is coming in at near 160 these days. Khan weighed in at 150 his last fight. Mayweather is 10x the infighter than Maidana is.
     
  10. Davew430

    Davew430 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Nothing funny about that post, it's the truth.

    Now judging by your avatar your a Khan fan, and there's nothing wrong with trying to back your fighter up, but when you sprout absolute bull****, be prepared to take some common sense
     
  11. tottenham19

    tottenham19 ESB Masterbro Full Member

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    Floyd would stop Khan inside six rounds. Khan should do his thing and wait for Mayweather to retire. Too early for him to be cashing out...
     
  12. Davew430

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    I honestly think JMM has, Katsidas give JMM a bit of a tough fight. What make's it worse is Pacquiao will probably destroy JMM in November, and people (mainly Pacquiao fans) are gonna' boast when the 3rd fight should never be happening.

    JMM is a tough cookie for anybody at 135, infact i can't think of a 135lbs fighter who's better, Khan would beat JMM at 140lbs, but not at 135lbs.

    Saying this, JMM was a live opponent for anybody back in 2009, just not above 140lbs and Mayweather knew this. Like the Ortiz fight, an easy fight for him with a lot of praise
     
  13. Hitta_Squadup

    Hitta_Squadup Beast ***e Full Member

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    What are you basing your belief on that Khan is ready to beat Mayweather? Khan barely made it past Maidana, looked like an average fighter against Paul where he had trouble landing clean blows, Khan's timing sucks, against Judah he landed only 20% of his punches and he was reckless in his attack...

    Luckily for him San can no longer pull the trigger, hell this is the same Zab that was losing on points to Mabuza before catching him with that left, Judah's lack of offense, will and heart was perfect for Khan to exploit, now let's recap, Khan of late has a scrape by win over Maidana, a sub-par performance against Paul Mcloskey (who?) and now a win over a past it Zab Judah who could never win at a high level in his prime and who from round one after the head-clash obviously didn't wanna fight...

    Now all of a sudden Khan is a threat to Mayweather based on this and his handspeed, hell Zab was fast as hell as-well at 24-25 but he never amounted to ****, imo Khan is a sloppy fighter who is very fast but lacks precision and the timing to beat Floyd, roach has Khan attempting to fight like Pac and this will lead to him being ko'ed soon....
     
  14. Darni187

    Darni187 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :patsch

    Only live fighter Khan has faced is Maidana, you must have some mad meaning of what live means. :lol:
     
  15. lazarus20000

    lazarus20000 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I think you're being a bit tough on ol Kats, he's a tough as nails fighter who has a good offensive game.

    I agree on the Pac fight, it should have been made earlier and perhaps around the 135 mark where it would have been competitve. I can see a career ending beating from Pac at WW. Pac is a beast now....