Morrison would certainly be improved with a better chin, but he'd still have very poor stamina. So when he fought hard & gassed, Tommy would still get stopped, because being exhausted makes it a much easier task to bypass a tough chin & drop a man on his ass.
Does anyone disagree about Seldon? He often gets relegated to footnote status in the legends of Bowe and Tyson...or is targeted with one-liners calling him a "two minute egg" and the like (or worse, with foolish but persistent accusations of being a dive-taker) - but examining his overall body of work took me aback. This was a good heavyweight. If you could just assign him some more of what Dungeons and Dragons* nerds call HP - or let him roll a d20 armor bonus - he is good enough to probably grab and keep firm hold of a belt in most eras (including this one, before the Ukrainian hydra assimilated all and hoarded all the treasure...) *that is Advanced 2nd edition...or any by TSR. None of this Wizards of the Coast noob crap. :bart ...not that I was ever a D&D nerd or anything....
I never got into it. :conf Besides, paving the way for (and later propagating) the Pocket Monster plague can never be forgiven. The bottom line here is that the old AC Express maxed out as like a level 7 warrior, but the character had level 20 paladin potential.
Yeah, well I blame D&D for making every single ****ing videogame made in the west based on a diceroll You got it all wrong. Yes, Magic made the TCG market viable. But it was actually good. And there was minimal overlap between the two fanbases. I'd know because I was playing Magic with my brother, cousins, and family friends as a kid while kids were punching each other over holographic Charizards. Pokemon's phenomenon was part TV, part videogame, and part tamagotchi. The actual game itself was played less than the cards were collected.
I don't think Morrison's chin was that bad. It wasn't his chin that did him in against Mercer it was his stamina. He beat Mercer like a heavy bag for four rounds and the hard headed SOB wouldn't budge. He simply gave out. He looked like he was doped up or something in that horrible loss to Bennt. Not that I'm insinuating foul play, just that Morrison didn't take it seriously. He wasn't ever seriously hurt in that fight, he just didn't have any legs and fell victim to the three-knockdown rule. He took some big shots in other fights and kept coming. He had two very bad looking losses, but I don't think either one was because of a Seldon-type chin. And I think he could've been a total-package guy if he would've ever taken the sport as seriously as he took the party-first lifestyle.
Amir Khan. He's certainly going places and a good enough fighter, but those whiskers are always going to be an issue. If he had an iron chin, he'd be something extremely special.
In terms of the D&D analogy, methinks Seldon was probably lacking the necessary wisdom and charisma needed to be a paladin. A lot of the kd's/ko's that he suffered seemed to be based more upon a lack of metal toughness than due to physical conditioning. Good STR and DEX, though, which allowed him to get to a fairly high level in his own right. (And you're right. 2nd Ed was the business. :good) Methinks if he were a Magic Card, he'd be somewhat akin to "Ball Lightning". Good power, haste, some sort of evasion abilty...but with low toughness and the requirement that he'd be tossed into the graveyard sooner rather than later. And thanks for letting me re-acquaint myself with my inner nerd. :happy
As cool as it was to relive the nerd days (is that an oxymoronic sentence?) - this thread feels somehow incomplete. There wasn't enough Seldon love for my taste, damn it. Admit that if he could take better lumps, he'd be remembered as an epic talent. :cus All hail his generation's Patterson.