Gerald Mcclellan vs Roy Jones jr

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  1. Ali4life

    Ali4life Member Full Member

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    I'm sure this may have come up before but if they had fought each other in the pros without all the things that took place who do you think would win between the two. Would Mcclellan manage to have defeated Jones like he did in the Amateurs or would Jones settle the score and prove to be the better fighter between the two in the pros. What are your thoughts ESB
     
  2. Body Head

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    This fight comes up like 2 times a month.

    Anyways i'm picking Roy for sure, from what i've seen of him in the mid 90's i think he coasts to a good decision win. For sure McClellan could catch him before the 12th though, but if i was to bet around that time, i'd definitely go with Roy no doubt.
     
  3. atberry

    atberry Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    It 100% comes down to Roy's chin. Was it always **** is the Q.

    If it was, he loses.
     
  4. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    McClellan would have stopped him some of the times , won a decision the smaller portion of the times , and Roy might have won a decision if they fought a sufficient number of times or if he comes at top shape and McClellan does not , or some dirty stuff by Cedric Kushner like Griffin #2 , Sosa , etc.
    Something like 40% McClellan by stoppage , 20 % McClellan by decision , 40% Roid by decision
     
  5. PowerPuncher

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    Has anyone seen or read fight reports of McClellan's losses?

    He took allot of flush bombs in Tarver 1 without going down and against big punching Sosa. McClellan has a speed and power combination like few others, called by Don King 'The MW Tyson'
     
  6. atberry

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    All I know is he claims to have under-trained for Milton and over-trained for Ward, before getting it right....

    Steward says he was too busy to train Gerald at the time of his losses because Dennis Andries had a world title fight with Harding and Hearns had Leonard II coming up.

    I know Milton rates him extremely highly, and Ward was saved by the bell apparently in the round he went down in.

    (McClellan was the only man to knock down Sanderline Williams.)

    You have to ask what a 21-year-old kid with no rounds under his belt was doing in with a slickster like Milton (who'd beat reigning champs Barkley and Nunn in the amateurs) anyway...
     
  7. Jorodz

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    good question and good post.

    as to the thread, let's imagine a world where roy and gerald aren't close friend and roy wants to win emphatically. in which case, roy takes this one unless mcclellan manages to tag him and tag him consistently. which i don't see.

    if it's at 160, it's a tougher fight but roy is too quick and too elusive to be tagged consistently and his chin was good enough to take the occasional shot (which would almost never land flush)

    if it's at 168, roy dominates the fight and may score a knockout in the late rounds once he feels the worst danger has passed.
     
  8. PowerPuncher

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    It's true he was inexperienced and not yet peaked, just interested how those fights played out. Like you say Milton was slick but he may have shown McClellan's suceptability to being outboxed. Even peak McClellan had a lack of a defense as Benn and Jackson proved, to his detriment his chin was too good. I also don't think his stamina was too good, Benn completely outworked him and his opponents rarely got out of the first couple of rounds
     
  9. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Jones would have weathered the early storm,and won decisively on the cards or stopped McClellan late on. Speed would be the deciding factor.
     
  10. lefthook31

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    I dont think anyone had a very good chance to beat Jones in his prime, but Mclellan would have had the best chance in my opinion. He was a pressure fighter with monstrous power. He would have put himself in the best position to win, so I give him the best shot to beat Jones. Noone was going to outbox him, you gotta catch him and time him, just like Lou Del Valle did. If Mclellan hit Jones like Delvalle did, Jones would have been taken out in a stretcher.
    That being said the most likely outcome is Jones beats him by UD.
     
  11. atberry

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    McClellan was no swarmer. He would circle opponents and use his jab as a range-finder, and had amazing timing.
     
  12. Jorodz

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    he did but from what i've seen he was relatively predictable. jackson had very good success early on timing a slightly tentative mcclellan. the benn fight showed he could jump an opponent and use ridiculous aggression to score a (near) first round knockout. all his defenses i believe also ended in the first. admittedly i haven't seen them all but he would appear to be a fast, fast starter
     
  13. lefthook31

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    Yes he did have excellent timing. That's why I think he has the best shot at Jones because as I said you had to time Jones perfectly to hit him "cleanly". Mclellan was definitely an offensive fighter though.
     
  14. HMSTempleGarden

    HMSTempleGarden Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    what weight are we talkling about?

    if its 175 then Jones doesn't get touched by anything McClellan throws at him, way, way too quick
     
  15. Jorodz

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    only weight mcclellan had any chance at was 160. at 168, jones is as close to untouchable as robinson was at 147, lopez was at 105 and ali was at heavyweight.