The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

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  1. Kid Presentable

    Kid Presentable Facial Blocking Full Member

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    Pac doesnt need to be versatile with his speed. it nullifies most boxers offence just by being so athletic, quick and powerful.

    he has improved greatly under Roach but i always feel his best defence is his offence. i dont think Pac is fantastic fighting going backwards. Morales showed this in their first fight
     
  2. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    Being versatile is having a variety of skill sets.

    Can emmanuel prevent most guys from getting inside? Yes, but emmanuel LACKS inside fighting ability.

    Floyd's signature pull counter straight is ENGINEERED FOR COUNTERING JABS, and he also his a great jab himself. The same can't be said of emmanuel's jab.

    emmanuel didn't know how to put Mosley's back in a corner or against the rope. Floyd did it smoothly.

    emmanuel doesn't how to play the clinch game.

    Does emmauel have skills at controlling distance and setting things up with a jab? Yes. Is he a great inside fighter, jabber, or ring cutter? No. His current skill set was practical enough for him throughout his career, so that's what he trained in over time and never had the need to develop more skills. Now he's an old dog set in his ways.
     
  3. Kid Presentable

    Kid Presentable Facial Blocking Full Member

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    why are you arguing about ****ing versatility with me. look at the ****ing poll result you ignorant jackass.

    you know why your massively in the minority? BECAUSE YOUR WRONG.

    THIS SITE HAS MORE PAC FANS THAN FLOYD FANS. FAIR PLAY TO THE PAC FANS WHO ARE BEING DECENT AND HONEST. SHOWING SOME INTREGITY
     
  4. evilsherwin

    evilsherwin Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Are you claiming all of Pacs first 50 fights were all bums ?

    Good for you :good
     
  5. Ripper11

    Ripper11 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :verysad maybe he won all those rounds because his orignal plan was doing so well and didn't need to adjust at all.
    Since you said Floyd lost more rounds, maybe it means he lost a few rounds and then adjusted enough to sweep the rest of the fight.

    You haven't given any specific examples or anything so this is all hypothetical
     
  6. Kid Presentable

    Kid Presentable Facial Blocking Full Member

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    yeah all bums Morales, Barrera, marquez . mosely all bums dead on mate show me a quote where i said this. is this what you do when your losing an argument
     
  7. Ripper11

    Ripper11 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    this is the poitn I'm pretty much trying to make to him, but he doesn't get it
     
  8. Kid Presentable

    Kid Presentable Facial Blocking Full Member

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    is Pac 50-0 like i apparently said? no your a manipulitive arsehole who wont rest untill he hears what he wants. my example was not of Pacquiao and dont ****ing pretend you dont understand that.
     
  9. evilsherwin

    evilsherwin Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I wasnt arguing with your dumbass unless your rippers alt.

    Polls are not scientific , its up to you if you wana take it as gospel :good

    Dont know why you so angry and calling names, I wasnt trolling anyone, I was having a discussion with another poster and it was all pretty civil till you joined the fray
     
  10. Kid Presentable

    Kid Presentable Facial Blocking Full Member

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    thats exactly what your doing callin people dumbasses becuse they disagree with you.

    you think Pac is more versatile than Floyd go ahead. Think that up to you.

    Why do you think he is? because he has won more rounds against opponents he was always favoured to easily beat?

    thats the worst reasoning ever.
     
  11. Ripper11

    Ripper11 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This thread is an example of Floyd's versatility
    http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=282158

    Also a perfect example of it is shown in the Castillo fight. He boxed Castillo and used the ring in the first part of the fight. He even switched southpaw a few times. The fight got a little rough and it got dangerously close toward the end, so Floyd comes out in the 11th round and fight Castillo who weighed in as a welterweight, and fights him up close in the pocket.

    That is versatility. I'm just asking for an example like this from Manny
     
  12. Kid Presentable

    Kid Presentable Facial Blocking Full Member

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    is this their first fight because i had Castillo winning that by a round. probably not best example as i think Floyd had no choice but to go inside and rough him up in later rounds.
     
  13. evilsherwin

    evilsherwin Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Wtf .. this is what you said (see above)

    You example to prove your point was totally ridiculous as everyone knows Pac didnt line up bums to tally his wins, so why make that point?

    I just paid in kind with this piece of "example extremism"


    And you fell for it like a raving idiot.
    Good Job :good
     
  14. Ripper11

    Ripper11 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    yeah I was speaking on the first one.

    The Chavez fight is just like that also. Floyd came out boxing him, and then ended the fight beating Chavez up in the pocket
     
  15. evilsherwin

    evilsherwin Well-Known Member Full Member

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    They've also had common opponents that we can compare..

    When was FMJ not the favorite, tell me the last time?
     
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