Wonjongkam won today/Sosa fight on the horizon

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by Moe Greene, Aug 4, 2011.


  1. Moe Greene

    Moe Greene Guest

    1st round stoppage over 'Pakasit Twins Gym' :roll:

    Okay, another abysmal opponent. But, two fights in two months is decent for any 'titlist' nowadays, and staying active against occasionally poor opposition is fairly 'old school' I guess.

    In two months time, Ponsaklek will finally defend his WBC title against Edgar Sosa, a former WBC titlist a weight below.

    Given recent performances, how do y'all see Pong Vs Sosa going down?

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    Wonjongkam against a Jap' I'd never heard of going into it, but who puts up a good fight (and looks to be trying to channel Naitos awkwardness in the hope it much cause the veteran title holder some problems). It's hard to tell what the Thai has left when he fights fringe opponents, but he still appeared to have poise, if he isn't quite as sharp as he used to be, with both his elusive movement and his counters. He still looks dangerous when he makes a concerted effort to put his punches together.

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    Sosa against a different random Jap'. He looks similarly decent (well, okay IMO) against a similarly ungaugable opponent who turns up to fight.

    Wonjongkam has the better recent form at the top level, and Sosa is coming off a devastating loss to Mayol and coming up in weight.

    How are both men going to approach this fight, and how do you see it going down? I'm fairly rusty on these weights, so any info/context would be very much appreciated :good

    My early prediction is that Sosa will be too easy to hit, and that Pong will set the pace and Sosa will find it hard to sustain his punching bursts. Wonjongkam wins a hard-fought decision in his homeland.
     
  2. JFT96

    JFT96 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Great fight this, I like Sosa a lot. I was shocked by the Mayol defeat but these divisions are competitive and results like that can happen. I'll give a proper description on how I see it going tomorrow, my bed is calling me now I'm afraid
     
  3. jpab19

    jpab19 Exploding Muffin Dad Full Member

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    Sosa's pretty decent, his record is deceptive as he has the obligatory ''Mexican who loses a few early fights because he lacks a big-time promoter'' problems at the dawn of his career. Though, that two of them were to a fellow top of the division in the quallity Ulises Solis is no shame, whether or not they were trying to look after him.

    Because once he got the ball rolling he had a Mijares-like(granted, at a much lower level) string of victories. And he took a few decent scalps along the way, decent though for the most part, and not much more. Viloria, Iribe, Lazarte, Kebb Bass, Jaro, Rubilar, Soto maybe a few more that I'm forgetting too. How good the Mayol win was for Mayol is great considering the fact that Edgar was on such a run, what makes a very large dent in the credibility I give him is that Sosa was still quite obviously from the obligatory massive headbutt that Rodel puts in. The headbutt he landed was bigger than any punch, clearly Sosa was in mass pain, and then a follow-up assault ended it before the fight ever found any kind of rhytym.


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    This is his last fight against Julio Paz, who's a pretty green fighter, 11-1 or something like that going in:


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    Unless his level of opposition is extremely poor, he still looks the same fighter he was before really. He wants to box on the move for the most part, and rather than just swing for the fences he utilises his power better and wants to find room for his punches. He's pretty adept at coming out of a crouch and coming over with that left hook, which may come in handy against Pong. His defence is decent at defending hooks but straight shots often penetrate his guard, particularly to the body, even when he blocks straight punches they seem to always at least partially break through.

    That'll be key for the better boxer, and straight pucher in Pong. Wonjongkam UD.
     
  4. jpab19

    jpab19 Exploding Muffin Dad Full Member

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    That said though, Pong really does look like he could be there for the taking in some regard. His defence really isn't as potent as it once was and he looks almost in the Marquez mould in terms of his countering now, it's not making you miss and making you pay, it's letting you throw whatever, whether it lands or not, and then coming back with something more crisp and accurate of your own.

    If that's happening with guys who are named after gyms, it's not beyond the realms of possibility that Sosa could take full advantage, particularly when you consider the amount that Pong falls short with his left hand when he tries to lead with it.

    Still, when Wonjongkam finds his range he's able to rattle off 4's and 5's of accurate straight shots, and that's the thing Edgar's not really best equipped to deal with over the course of a fight.
     
  5. JFT96

    JFT96 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Forgot about this thread, apologies :oops:.

    Anyway, my feeling is that this should be a really good one and definitely a much worthier opponent for Wonjongkam. There's quite a few aspects to Sosa's style which makes me think he could give Pong a bit to worry about.

    Sosa at his best (which I don't think he's miles away from) reminded me of a mini JMM, although obviously not the same skill wise. He has the ability to box at range, counter punch effectively or act as a pressure fighter, getting in close and unleashing brilliant body punches.

    Now as JPab has already said, Wonjongkam's straight punches are his most effective weapon and I think he throws them with enough accuracy that he will consistently find the target with Sosa. However, as I mentionned Sosa's not unused to fighting on the outside and I think he has more than enough nous to slip Pong's not-so-great jabs every now and then and unleash left hooks to body and head. His hooks from both hands are solid, dangerous shots and vs Kameda, Pong showed that he was very susceptible to getting hit with right hooks when he threw from too far away.

    If he can keep Pong on the inside for a fair amount of time, I'd actually give Sosa half a chance of winning this. That style of fight is much more suited to him and he could nullify Pong's better skills by doing so.

    But in truth, I doubt that would be the case. I think Wonjongkam is likely to control the fight at distance and take a UD, although with a few scares along the way. Much more exciting fight for Pong to take, I'm looking forward to it :good
     
  6. Moe Greene

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    Exatly.

    Thanks for the contributions lads, I need to shake off some rust when it comes to the lower weights, haven't been arsed with bxing much in the last year and some of my favourite divisions took a big hit :-( (in the modern sense)
     
  7. SportsLeader

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    Mayol - Sosa replays itself in my head from time to time.
     
  8. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    Thai names crack me up.
     
  9. Moe Greene

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    Moe Uber Hulk Gym would be my Thai boxing name :deal
     
  10. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    Tee Double F Batteries

    :yep
     
  11. JFT96

    JFT96 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'm guessing Sosa won't forget the fight for that butt for a while either :yep
     
  12. SportsLeader

    SportsLeader Chilling Full Member

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    I know the head butt played it's part, but I think that was a genuinely good KO and finish by Mayol. Yoiu've gotta give the dirty little ****er some credit :yep
     
  13. jpab19

    jpab19 Exploding Muffin Dad Full Member

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    The butt more than played it's part. Sosa was noticably very badly effected by it.
     
  14. JFT96

    JFT96 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It was an excellent finish, one that I admit I never thought Mayol would possess. However, I don't think he would have had the chance without the butt. Still, a great win on Mayol's record