De La Hoya Seems To Think He Has The Key To Beat Floyd

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  1. Big Red

    Big Red Boxing Addict Full Member

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    In his prime I think De La Hoya would have beaten Floyd. But what he had he can't teach to Ortiz.
     
  2. mr. piff

    mr. piff The Ring General Full Member

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    You need to tell that to the dudes who harp on the Floyd/JMM fight. They seem to think those two pounds were the key ingredient to his loss:rofl
     
  3. PH|LLA

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    another thing is that when Oscar fought Floyd he had Roach in his corner who is the master of gameplans. That same version of Oscar with another trainer probably wouldn't have made it so competitive.
     
  4. WiDDoW_MaKeR

    WiDDoW_MaKeR ESB Hall of Fame Member Full Member

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    Really?

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    Thanks...
     
  5. PH|LLA

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    another ***** exposed.
     
  6. mr. piff

    mr. piff The Ring General Full Member

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    Oscar would have done the same thing he did with Mosely, hit cruise control/gas and lost
     
  7. bballchump11

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  8. Starched Him

    Starched Him Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    reminds me of lennox
    but lennox actually won
     
  9. BigReg

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    I guess that explains why Hopkins performed so great with Roach in his corner.
     
  10. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    Mayweather and Oscar were born in the same month, which means Mayweather is older now than Oscar was when he fought Mayweather. Also, Oscar had been out of the ring for 1 year prior to fighting Mayweather. Mayweather hasn't fought in a year and a half. Let's also not for forget that he had an almost 2 year layoff after the Hatton fight.
     
  11. WiDDoW_MaKeR

    WiDDoW_MaKeR ESB Hall of Fame Member Full Member

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    Did you miss Oscar's layoff after the Hopkins fight?

    BTW, you can just admit you were wrong and let it go.:D
     
  12. BigReg

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    Oscar had a 21 month layoff after the Hopkins fight and and 12 month layoff after the Mayorga fight. Mayweather had a 21 month layoff after the Hatton fight and will have had a 16 month layoff after the Mosley fight.
     
  13. PH|LLA

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    If you're talking about the Calzaghe fight, Hopkins was a massive underdog and performed a lot better than what was the general consensus beforehand.

    And anyways you can guess whatever you want but the dynamic is different with Hopkins who is a cerebral fighter compared to Oscar or anyone for that matter.
     
  14. MichiganWarrior

    MichiganWarrior Still Slick! Still Black! Full Member

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    There is a blueprint on how to beat Manny Pacquiao. There is a blueprint on how to beat Ortiz. There was a blueprint on how to beat Oscar De La Hoya.



    There is no blueprint on how to beat Floyd Mayweather.

    41 have tried, 41 have failed.
     
  15. WiDDoW_MaKeR

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    Once again... you don't realize the difference? We can keep going back further and further so you can try to pretend like you were right...but we all know you are wrong.:lol: Floyd has fought twice since that layoff and Oscar had fought once. Once again...Floyd had 24 rounds to Oscar's 6. this is just silly.

    Floyd is clearly a more active, more involved fighter than Oscar was. Floyd has always been a gym rat, and always stays in great shape. Oscar certainly did not. Let alone the fact that Oscar was going up against the #1 pd 4 pd fighter of that time... and Mayweather certainly isn't. Not to say that Ortiz is a horrible opponent, because he certainly is not... Ortiz is a very good opponent. However, you are grabbing at straws that aren't even there to pretend like Floyd is a less active, more past it fighter than Oscar was. Staying in the gym like Floyd does keeps the rust off.

    Honestly, in my opinion Oscar was never the same fighter after he was ripped off against Trinidad in 1999! I think he lost his love for the sport, and it was clear by his actions outside of the ring... the other things that he went into, and the fights that he brought into the ring afterward. Not that he didn't have any great wins or good performances after that... he just wasn't the same Oscar De La Hoya anymore. I think that when they took away his perfect record in that fashion, and took that mega-fight win away from him... it ruined his passion for the sport.... as a boxer at least.