Kessler to Fight Stieglitz in Denmark.

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Firestarter, Jul 25, 2011.


  1. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Im not sure that people appreciate that Steiglitz has a fair resume.
    Steiglitz has lost some fights but has wins over -
    Berrio who became IBF champ
    Balzsay who was undefeated WBO SMW champ and getting another title shot
    Gutknecht who was undefeated and is now European LHW champ.

    That is a better resume than Dirrell or G Johnson at SMW.

    I expect Kessler to win, and if Kessler does he has a belt to bargain with against Froch/Ward winner or Bute
     
  2. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    because it means nothing to beat a top level fighter a 2nd time? at least he has balls to actually fight top guys...
     
  3. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    What top level guys are you on about?
    Unwell double vision suffering Kessler at home was a good win, even though it was dirty illegal fighting at times, but what other top guys?
    Green :lol:, who couldnt beat a gatekeeper in Miranda and was blasted out by old G Johnson in his next fight.
    Bika who hadnt had many rounds in a while and was beaten clearer previously by Bute and Calzaghe
    Abraham coming off of 2 clear S6 defeats, yeah thats top :patsch
     
  4. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    because belts means so ****ing much....how much do you value the belt povetkin and chagaev are fighting for? how about brian magees new wba belt? or the belt chavez jr has that hes going to defend against ronald heans?
    you sound like a douche bag when you bring up the name "berrio" and "balzasay" . just who the hell are they? what great fights do we know them because of? right up there with benn-eubank, jackson-mclellan, mcclellan-benn? those guys are very small foot notes in the "even average joes can be a belt holder if you creep around long enough"
     
  5. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    down play abraham all you want, at least he didnt ***** out the tourney....kessler would have another loss before it was over..... ward gave kessler double vision during his ass kicking of him....dirty and illegal? WAHHHHHHH , a ****ing viking warrior is gonna cry about that? please!! hahahaha viking warrior ? :lol::lol:

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  6. bailey

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    If you dont know who Berrio or Balzsay are than you make yourself look a douche with your silly sentence. Balzsay has an honest resume better than Dirrells.
    Whos average Joe, hes not the one that Ward fights the leftovers of, is he?
     
  7. JoeAverage

    JoeAverage Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Belts shouldn't mean much, but then you have both Interbox and Bute fans claim that Bute should get home advantage and 60 -40 if he meets Kessler.... because Bute has a belt...
     
  8. bailey

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    Dont recall any warrior crying, but I think the fact that Kessler had a genuine injury and gave up his belt showed how genuine he seemed, not like Dirrell winning on the floor.
    Abraham didnt ***** out, but how good a win do you like to pretend he was coming off of 2 clear S6 defeats :lol:. This will be good. Lets here it.
    Abraham said he cant compete at SMW and is going back to MW :patsch.
    Think the point you are also forgetting when you talk about S6 fighters doing ***** moves is that all of the original S6 fighters fought away at some point except for Ward, who didnt want to test himself in a big SMW title fight away :oops:. Even when Ward was just a little further from Joakland he still needed his Californian judge. What a warrior :yep.
    Still Ward was probably wise as American SMW who try to compete in big fights in Europe away from America have never been able to compete ie Taylor, Lacy, Dirrell etc. The list goes on as you know
     
  9. Englund

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    It's about as top as Bute's and Kessler's. Bute beat Andrade, Miranda, and Bika. Kessler beat Froch, Andrade, and Beyer. Ward beat Miranda, Kessler, Bika, and Green. (say what you want about Green, he was pretty feared before the tournament) It's at least as good as either of their resumes. Froch arguably has the best resume at 168, but I'll personally reserve the #1 spot for the winner of that fight.
     
  10. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Its below both.
    Bute -
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    As for rating Wards resume to Kesslers you are joking

    Kessler beats
    WBA champ Siaca
    2 time WBA champ Mundine away who became a champ again after losing to Kessler
    3 time WBC champ Beyer when champ
    Sartison who became WBA regular champ
    Lucas former WBC champ
    Thobela former WBC champ
    Andrade undefeated who could have been given a KO over Bute
    Haussler away who was a European champ
    Froch 2 time WBC champ won the title again after losing to Kessler
    JC Green, Porras (gatekeepers one a former MW champ)


    Frochs resume is better than Wards and Butes but not as good as Kesslers. Remember AA was coming off a clear defeat, Pascal wasnt a great SMW and has lost to an old man (albeit a very good one), Dirrell hasnt done anything as a SMW
     
  11. MJK

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    I dont know if you were talking about me since we had a similar talk. I said he should keep at least half of the 2M$ he brings from Showtime. You said Bute should give all his money to Kessler or Froch without keeping any money because he needs to fight them. I think it is more weird what you said than saying a 60-40 could be fair...

    And if you read a lot of post about Kessler/Bute, you probably saw that a lot of people saying Kessler made a good move by trying to grab a belt to be able to ask for more money in future fight. Kessler's fans are saying this, not Bute's fans.

    And anyway, I told you that casual fans pays either via ppv or by gates the salary of the fighter. And except some few fighters (Pac, Floyd and the likes) casual needs to see a belt in play to watch the fight. So even if the fight is 50/50 the fighters usually makes more money with a belt.
     
  12. dru626

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    That's cause you're a newby
     
  13. Samurai's Slice

    Samurai's Slice ESB Legend Full Member

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    Abraham looked terrible at Super Middleweight. Kessler has double vision and Green sucks and he couldn't even stop Green, Abraham or Miranda. Bute, Kessler and even froch are better the the feather-fisted cheated Ward.
     
  14. Royal-T-Bag

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    Kessler would beat his ass anywhere, Stieglitz is one of the worst paper champs ever, Andrade owned him. Gonna love watching the brutal KO by Kessler though, dude is always great to watch. Hopefully Kessler will actually man up and fight Bute after he demolishes Stieglitz.
     
  15. Tyler-Durden

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    +1000
    :deal