The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

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  1. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    No I wasn't using Mayweather/Shane to compare to Pac/Shane, I was just using it as an example of how Floyd fought differently compared to Hatton and Oscar. I also gave it as an example of how Floyd's defense is verastile and can adjust to Mosley's attack. My point about Mosley had nothing to do with Pacquiao
     
  2. puga_ni_nana

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    cotto fough off the backfoot when he is already leading. cotto actually won at least a round while fight of it and even mosley thinks cotto won.

    yeah also mosley looked shot after a long period of inactivity and was breathing heavily after just 2 rounds. the mosley that floyd fought is nowhere in the same condition as the mosley that cotto fought.

    but cotto fought pacquiao who is far greater than the part-time promoter version that floyd fought. even margarito was much better than the oscar that floyd fought.

    pacquiao weighed 144. that's the reason why the ring mag did not ranked pac at 154 and retain his ranking at welter.

    i see you still did not answer the question of who took the bigger risk at welter and would rather make this board a ******-fest just like the way you like it Leon. :D
     
  3. KnuckleUp99

    KnuckleUp99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Like I said.....I don't think PAC is overall MORE versatile than Floyd based on Floyd's very deep defensive qualities. But I do think PAC is more dynamic and versatile offensively. he can do more with that one area than Floyd and of course Floyd is by far a better technician defensively than Manny.

    But I did notice that you were not comparing Floyd's performance to Manny's performance when they faced Shane. ANd everyone was very impressed with how Floyd switched gears after a shaky 2nd round to shift the tides in that fight. My bad...when I first read your post I thought you were comparing the two..
     
  4. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    It's cool man :thumbsup and Manny does have a lot of tools on offense. I do think he's versatile, but just not as versatile as Floyd

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNWVUyT1lE0[/ame]
     
  5. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    Damn, your understanding skills suck.

    I was trying to help you by telling you Floyd performed much better against Mosley than Cotto did.

    Mosley was tired because Floyd made him that way. He had enough gas to run around when he fought emmanuel a year later.

    You need to improve your reading. I said part-time boxer Oscar that Floyd beat is greater than anyone Cotto beat. I don't give no sympathy points for losses.

    lol@margaritoe being a better fighter than Oscar. antonio would move up to 154 and get his AZZ beat by Oscar.

    You're a ***. You would be offended if people talked straight **** with you.

    Floyd resume @ 154 > Cotto resume @ 154. Did Cotto take riskier fights @ 147 than Floyd? Yep. Did Floyd look better than Cotto @ 147? Yep. Is Mayweather the superior fighter between the two? Si
     
  6. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    I think Oscar would KO Margarito out at 154.
     
  7. Leon

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    KO earlier or later than Mosley?
     
  8. KnuckleUp99

    KnuckleUp99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No doubt! I'm definitlely the minority in this debate and I absolutely understnad why. There's really no one in the game who is as "broad" as Floyd in terms of his ability. He's got so many different weapons that he utilizes that makes a strong case for him. Thanks for the vid.
     
  9. bballchump11

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    uh around the same time or earlier. Oscar is bigger and I think he packs more of a punch than Mosley.
    I'd just worry about him getting tired though or not clinching when needed
    no problem :thumbsup
     
  10. puga_ni_nana

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    i was trying to say who has fought more threats at welter.

    mosley was more of a threat at a time when cotto fought him than at the time when floyd and pac fought him. also why would mosley suddenly get tired after round2 when he dominated floyd just after? that goes to show his conditioning for that fight. the 15 months of inactivity didn't help mosley.

    the margarito that cotto fought was better than the oscar that floyd fought. there's no question here. there's a reason why oscar chose pacquiao instead of margarito that time.

    and thank you for admitting that floyd took much lesser risk than cotto at welter. :thumbsup

    irony: Leon accusing someone a *** but likes talking about "floyd's black wiener".
     
  11. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    Mosley was a bigger threat for Cotto than he was Floyd. He was also a bigger threat for Floyd than he was emmanuel, so stop trying to act like Floyd and emmanuel fought the same Shane just because emmanuel had a failed performance against Shane.

    Oscar fought emmaneul because emmanuel was a more consistent and greater draw than antonio. marg has looked terrible at 154 so far. Oscar looked pretty good at that weight. Oscar's hook ***** slaps him back to Tijuana.

    Keep talking about wieners, you ladyboy. You can buy a bowl of rice if you can get someone to pay for phone sex.:yep

    Cotto may have faced more threats than Floyd @ 147, but it still stands that Cotto's body of work throughout his entire career is inferior to Floyd's.
     
  12. puga_ni_nana

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    yeah it was a so failed performance that he produced a knockdown and made mosley run throughout the fight. at least mosley was better condition in the pacquiao fight so as not to gas out that early. the thing is, both floyd and pac fought a mosley who is just 1 year apart. cotto fought mosley back in 2008, 2 years before.

    oscar fought pacquiao because he is a draw, yes youa re correct, but he also cherry-picked pacquiao instead of margarito because he thought he is an easier fight coming-up from 130/135. you don't even know that people are criticizing oscar that time for picking pacquiao and instead wants him to fight margarito at 147 that time.

    floyd is miles more gifted than cotto. but if he just fought cotto's competition at welter and won, he could have fulfilled his potential.

    so you are not only into butt-****ing but also into paid phone sex Leon? :lol:
     
  13. Leon

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    What you're missing is that emmanuel is billed as "the best offense", but he failed to show the ability to fire at a moving target in his Mosley fight. so Mosley's stamina gets better as he gets older and shot?:patsch

    It was Oscar's last fight. He might as well as get paid.

    Keep bringing up Floyd and emmanuel if it makes you feel better about the fact that Cotto hasn't fought anyone live in his last 2 and upcoming fight.

    How much rice were you able to buy today with the money from your phone sex, ladyboy?:yep
     
  14. puga_ni_nana

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    so when was the last time floyd fought a moving target? mosley was shot by the time he fought floyd and pacquiao, no denying that. the long lay-off is counterproductive to mosley. the fight in between aginst mora could have made mosley more conditioned against pac.

    oscar doesn't know it was his last fight and he thought that he would smash the midget who is coming up 2 divisions.

    well you're the first to bring pac and was only comparing floyd and cotto's opposition at welter.

    so Leon, why fancying so much about "black dicks" , "ladyboys" and "phone sex" ? :yikes
     
  15. Blizz42

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    Man wtf are you even saying:lol:
     
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