If Floyd struggles with Ortiz

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  1. Gander Tasco

    Gander Tasco Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He also wobbled Margarito with a counter right hand. He stunned Morales with a counter right hand. He was pasting Hatton all night with right hands. I could go on and on.
     
  2. J Prince

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    No. Ortiz's style is different then Pac's and also even though Ortiz ony fought at the weight once he's seems to be a huge welterweight and his chin looks pretty good so I cant see Floyd hurting him if Berto didnt with all those right hands. Pac on the other hand even though a much greater fighter he has more flaws that I think Floyd would be able to take advantage of like his balance and leaving himself open often and his trouble really getting to fighters who move.

    But either way I see Floyd winning 8 rounds to 4 with Ortiz looking good early like Zab did maybe even hurting Floyd and takes 3 of the first 4 rounds then after that Floyd will adjust and have him figured out and not lose a round and make Ortiz look like he made Hatton, Zab, Mosley, Corley ect like they were bums in the second half of the fight after having some early success.
     
  3. Blizz42

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    None of what things:huh
     
  4. Gander Tasco

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    Where was the adjustment in the Corley fight? All I saw was a slugfest from the opening bell. Corley was being aggressive and Floyd stood there in front of him and traded.

    Where was the adjustment in the Judah fight? People say Floyd adjusted after the 3rd or 4th round, but what I saw was Judah stop throwing punches. He's well known for being a front runner.

    Floyd's ability to 'adjust' is extremely overrated. Most of the time he's just a slow starter. He takes a round or two to settle in. You can name very, very few situations where Floyd had to completely change up his strategy to win. If I'm wrong name me some examples.
     
  5. smoothy

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    pacquiao was confused when mosley was moving around the ring, no clue on how to close the distance and open for right hands. Floyd would have a field day with his straight right.
     
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  7. smoothy

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    if ortiz is B- at WW then marquez must be E+ at WW.
     
  8. Blizz42

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    He lost to a guy who could punch back with either hand. How the **** do you call a 112, 122, 126, and 130 champion raw???? :nut
     
  9. Gander Tasco

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    It just shows how talented pacquiao was . He won half of his fights as a raw, over-aggressive, one-handed fighter. Contrast Pacquiao today, or even the one from the 2nd morales fight, to the 1st one, and it's difference is obvious.
     
  10. puga_ni_nana

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    floyd is supposed to outclass ortiz. it will not change that floyd is the slight favorite against pac.
     
  11. bballchump11

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    Floyd was coming to him also. And Mitchell was fighting going backwards the whole fight

    Ran right out to him in the beginning of the 10th round
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  12. J Prince

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    Not to mention Ortiz's best hand is his right hand and throws it almost like a straight right while Pac's best hand is his left but does have a good right but throws it way more looping then Ortiz.
     
  13. Englund

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    Mosley, he shut down any sort of jab Mosley was throwing and watched for Mosley stance and timing of the right hand he got hit with in round 2. You could see in between rounds 2 and 3, he was looking up at the screen to see how he got caught and immediately fixed it.

    Hatton, he got a feel for Hatton's rhythm at around round 4 and began to shut down his entire offense and pick him apart. Hatton had some success with his rushes and brawling techniques, and Floyd was able to account for how his body moved when he'd throw what punches. He rarely got hit flush after that point.

    Marquez, you could see Marquez ad******g throughout the fight. He'd see a constant opening and time it. When the time was right, he would hit Floyd with a right hand. However, after each time, Floyd would correct each mistake so Marquez NEVER could capitalize on the same mistake twice. That's why he outclassed Marquez, because Floyd had openings all night whereas Marquez had to find new openings every time he landed a punch.

    Oscar, he had some early success with his on-the-rope body attacks. It actually took Floyd a little longer to counter this strategy because of the jab Oscar used. So, Floyd began to time Oscar's jab to lessen its effectiveness, then he could easily feel out Oscar's rhythms for his rushes and counter him while he came in.

    Zab, say what you will, but the strategy they came in with was to break Zab's will. Zab was looking mostly for his left hand, and because of his speed, he was able to land it early. Once this started to happen, Floyd timed Zab's left and simply slipped it; then he would come back with a sustained body attack. This is why Zab stopped throwing, he lost his weapon and was getting pasted to the body.

    There's a few examples. Should I go on?
     
  14. Gander Tasco

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    Right , but you were saying Floyd had to come to him , which clearly isnt the case. So why did he? Shouldnt he have been fighting on the backfoot and countering, rather then exposing himself to danger?
     
  15. bballchump11

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