who is the greatest mexican fighter to lace em up

JMM, Morales, and Barrera are great fighters in their own right. Each has their own style. I don't see any one of their styles giving JCC trouble. Would they be good fights? Sure, but none would have the power to stop JCC. None would have the stamina, skills, chin, speed, or anything to outbox JCC for 12rds, thus my opinion that JCC would be 10 for 10 if they fought that many times. JCC was in a league of his own, period.

 

i had him clearly beating norwood, and closely beating john (close by virtue of 2 unfair deductions). i had him losing both pac fights by 1 point, but losing to pac is no big deal.

I think at featherweight jmm was pretty amazing and pac aside beat everyone he fought there (plus he took 7 rounds off pac imo). it's a shame he didn't get big fights with hamed, mab and em because i think that he beats all 3 and has his legacy secure already.

still, to consider that he was a top featherweight for 10 years, the premiere sfw and the premiere lw. to follow that up with a win over the premiere WW and p4p number 1, a full 12 years after being robbed against norwood it doesn't get much better in mexican history.

I think it's a shame that at age 37 he's still fighting for his legacy because he should be remembered as one of the great featherweights. i don't wanna speculate or assign blame for the naz, mab and em fights not happening at fw but i think beating a primed ww in pac will make up for this.

regarding the mab fight, very very close. had the kd-foul incident not happened maybe mab would have deserved it, or atleast the cards should certainly have reflected that, but i think it was close, as close as pac-marquez 2 anyways.

 

in a wolrd were buster douglas can knock out mike tyson, anything can happen, certainly over 30 fights against 3 different great fighters.

 

No bother mate, the guy was obviously a ****ing tool.

 

Then doesn't the fact that MAB was much further from his prime than JMM was at the time they fought suggest to you that a prime vs prime encounter would've been won by Barrera?

 

someone mentioned Vicente Saldivar...great choice!

 

Come on, we both know boxing isn't that simple.

Take pac's fights with mab, mab looked much better in the rematch despite being further from his prime. maybe mab changed something up that made him more effective against cerating styles late in his career.

At featherwight jmm showed vulnerability to the straight left from the southpaw stance (norwood, pac). His all round combination of strength, speed, combo punching, timing and technique puts him above anyone else in that era of featherweights, not named pac.

now would mab have been the toughest featherweight he faced? perhaps so, it would be a totally different challenge from the relentlessly wild pac who jmm was able to effectively figure out. The truth is we never will know for definite which greater highlights how much of a shame it is that jmm didn't get the big featherweight fights with mab, hamed and em.

 

I think it was pretty well known that Tyson, at that point, was not training properly for that fight. Anyhow, to mention MAB, JMM, or EM over JCC is really going overboard, and that's my opinion.

 

biggest upset in boxing history.

I think to suggest chavez would beat all 3 10 times out of 10 is really going overboard, and that's my opinion.

 

When you go 89-0 against all type of fighters and styles, that isn't an opinion, that's a fact.

My opinion is that JCC>JMM, MAB, and EM, which is backed up by JCC career. :hey

 

no you're opinion is that chavez would go 30-0 against morales, marquez, barrera. you have clearly stated it as such.

just admit you went a bit too far dude.

 

I believe the Barrera-Marquez fight which happened provides a strong, strong indication that Barrera would've outjabbed and outboxed Marquez prime-for-prime. IMO, Barrera was considerably further from his prime and still deserved the decision. That was an excellent version of Marquez, and he didn't come close to beating a shopworn MAB as decisively as Pacquiao managed in the second Pac-MAB fight. MAB was a bad match-up for JMM.

 

again this further underlines how gutted we as fight fans should be that we missed out on this great fight between two primed featherweights.

as it is we just have to be content with disagreeing :-(

 

At lightweight, Chavez would go 30-0 against those three, which isn't really fair as Morales was well well past his best by the time he reached 135, and Barrera was more or less shot. At 130, Chavez would win the majority of the 30, but his MD with Rocky Lockridge tells me he probably would've dropped some decisions to one or more of those guys along the way.

 

Now, we both know that no fighter fights the same fighter 10 times. But, I would confidently bet on JCC to beat all three no matter how many times they fought. :good