The "Floyd struggles against southpaws" myth

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  1. Hitta_Squadup

    Hitta_Squadup Beast ***e Full Member

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    I've been having a hard time understanding why fans and even so call boxing experts suggest that Floyd struggles with southpaw fighters....

    Okay let's look at a few of his southpaw challengers...

    Sharmba Mitchell- result Floyd by tko- fight not even close...

    Demarcus Corley- result Floyd ud- chop chop lands 2 or 3 good punches but is ultimately destroyed..

    Zab Judah- result Floyd ud- Zab comes out strong for about three rounds lands a few good left-hands but is eventually broken-down and punished...


    Now here's lies the problem about southpaws supposedly giving Floyd more problems than an orthodox fighter, firstly he's only fought a handful even worth mentioning, secondly he beat all of them comfortably...

    Let's look at the fights that were argubly Floyds hardest fights...

    Jose Luis Castillo- result Floyd ud- a very close fight that Floyd won against an orthodox fighter...

    Oscar De La Hoya- result Floyd sd- another close fight that Floyd won against an orthodox fighter..

    Some also believe Ricky Hatton gave Floyd a close fight prior to the KO (i don't) Ricky Hatton an orthodox fighter, now can anyone explain to me how there is any credibility to
    This myth, Shane Mosely who is also an orthodox fighter hit Floyd with probably the hardest punch he's ever been hit with..

    Seems to me that southpaw vs orthodox, Floyd has had more trouble with orthodox fighters...:deal
     
  2. qwert

    qwert Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Corley and Judah were two of Floyd's toughest fights but I agree that his problems with southpaws are overstated. Possibly because his dad is terrified of them.
     
  3. SouthpawJab

    SouthpawJab On his way up!! 4-0!! Full Member

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    The Corley fight wasn't really tough. He gets hit which is why people say he struggled.
     
  4. Hitta_Squadup

    Hitta_Squadup Beast ***e Full Member

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    Losing a few rounds against Corley & Zab hardly qualifies as tough fights for me but I can see why you say that they were tough fights for him, we're used to seeing Floyd shut boxers out prior to those fights...
     
  5. Divi253

    Divi253 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    People are not used to Floyd being hit hard/flush and when someone has a little success they tend to go overboard... When you have a hard time finding holes in something you want deflated you start making your own..
     
  6. Hitta_Squadup

    Hitta_Squadup Beast ***e Full Member

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    Yea but he gets hit against a few orthodox fighters and hit hard by Shane so I still don't understand that logic...
     
  7. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    No they weren't, especially the Corley fight. Castillo, Augustus, Hoya, and Chavez were his toughest fights. Anyway, I don't even think the people who say he has trouble with Soutpaws really believe it. If they did, they wouldn't all be writing Ortiz off like they are.
     
  8. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    He shut Corley out
     
  9. Hitta_Squadup

    Hitta_Squadup Beast ***e Full Member

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    Brilliant...
     
  10. Divi253

    Divi253 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yeah this is exactly why it doesn't make sense... It's boxing, sometimes you get hit.. That's as bad as people saying Shane hit Floyd with a lucky shot (or two) in the second round... Shane had a good plan, but failed to get the KO... Floyd adjusted and it didn't happen again.
     
  11. qwert

    qwert Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Like you said, Chop Chop wasn't a hard fight by most boxers standards but he definitely caused Floyd a few problems. From my memory of it he had him hurt slightly too. I think Floyd has said in the past that fight was the most he's been hurt.

    One other thing about Floyd fighting southpaws: he hasn't fought any since Judah, and since that fight his straight right hand, his best punch and generally considered the most effective punch against southpaws, has become even better.
     
  12. compukiller

    compukiller Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Floyd is undefeated against southpaws, this is not a myth.

    It's just that 2 of them hit him a few times and people went crazy.

    He has never won less than a dominant UD against them. Corley should have been stopped, and Zab would have been stopped had he not bought himself time by fouling FLoyd fragrantly and inciting a riot. :lol:
     
  13. Outboxer

    Outboxer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Judah genuinely frustrated him for the first four rounds. When you see someone as good as Floyd getting hit consistently with clean shots then it naturally makes you sit up and take notice. Floyd's defence is better than his offence, so when Judah forced him to lead the action, Floyd was getting countered to both the head and the body, and Judah even scored a knockdown that wasn't called. I always thought that Floyd's body language after the second round seemed to indicate that he was annoyed at how the fight was going at that point, and while he eventually went on to dominate Judah, those early rounds made him look surprisingly vulnerable at points. It wasn't just because Judah was a southpaw, though -- it was the combination of the southpaw stance, the speed and the fact that Judah was fighting so defensively.

    There's also the fact that apparently Judah had sparred Mayweather before they actually fought, so he already had a sense for Floyd's style and how best to try and deal with it.
     
  14. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    Judah had two good rounds in that fight, but they were arguably the two most effective rounds anyone has had against Mayweather. Once Mayweather won the 3rd round and then Judah came back and won the 4th, I thought Judah was going to win. Then the 5th and 6th round happened and I knew it was over.
     
  15. Divi253

    Divi253 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think these are HIGHLY overlooked factors in how that fight played out. Floyd did look bothered though.. Judah came out smart being the defensive one against Floyd.