Benny Leonard vs. Floyd Mayweather Jr.

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  1. Ted Spoon

    Ted Spoon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Irrespective of what you may think of their merits as fighters, what cannot be dismissed is Leonard's great edge in experience and something which everyone who saw him swore by, that being his uncanny ability to adapt to anything you threw at him.

    Seen as Mayweather is similarly inclined in the realm of ambiguous warfare there is more than a small chance that this could degenerate into a nit-picking stalemate but Ted Spoon believes Leonard's mystifying footwork offsets this initial mischief and that greater mobility is used to keep Mayweather guessing more than vice versa.

    Leonard took chances when a weakness was spotted, and he carried some pop to boot. He enjoyed his single shots as much as modern-day Floyd but jumbled up his delivery from both moving and static positions; Leonard hit a beautiful medium in this sense; there were shades of Pep in his movement and shades of Gans in his precise hitting.

    In fifteen rounds, Mayweather's presence would be one more so of resistance than a technical problem. Leonard beats him at his own game; not without trouble but beat him he does.

    And to the naysayers who proclaim this prediction to be soaked in rose-tinted sentiment...the film which we do have of him, Leonard looks stellar.
     
  2. ripcity

    ripcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Would Tony/Nunn be a good comparsion? Toney being Mayweather and Nunn being Leonard. Nunn was leading on the cards at the time of the stoppage.
     
  3. Armstrong!

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    I saw the Tendler and McLarnin fights. He was a beast, and an ATG, as a boxer his skills were almost unparalleled and his career as a whole is on a whole other level to Floyd. But H2H I just don't think it's very competitive.

    :conf
     
  4. The Funny Man 7

    The Funny Man 7 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  5. SouthpawJab

    SouthpawJab On his way up!! 4-0!! Full Member

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    I wasn't impressed at all with the footage I saw(though to be fair, it's in black and white and there is no slo mo replay)
     
  6. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace

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    I agree my justification was, to be frank, **** poor.

    I think Floyd is every bit as skilled as leonard (top 10-15 category atg skill) plus he has the advantage in size ans aside from a fight he was injured in, he's never really been troubled. yes his resume aint great, I agree on that, but it's very good and I think as his path closes and he retires his reputation will be enhanced (i predict he closes his career against ortiz, khan and pac)
     
  7. Swarmer

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    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hrAs0Tyo5g[/ame]

    has some slowed down sections.
     
  8. Pachilles

    Pachilles Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Seriously Swarmer? Yes, he looks clever and elusive, and a little better than the rest of the shithouses from the 20's.

    Why when you guys see standard textbook stuff from these old guys do you people get boners? Its only because the rest of them look like dog****, in my opnion.

    Leonard was better in his time, than Mayweather was in his own. But put them in a ring together, Mayweather would school Benny Leonard.
     
  9. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    The funny thing no one on either side of the debate has picked up on is Leonard and Mayweather use a good few of the same techniques :yep
     
  10. hent

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    Mayweather by KO 1.

    leonard would be a dimitri salita in todays boxing.
     
  11. ripcity

    ripcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    and they were/are the best of their eras and would likely be the best an any era. There seemes to be an addage that says not to move in stright lines. Yet Leonard and Mayweather have been very secssfull doing just that. I read an aritical before that compares Leonard to a fencer. Fencers fight on stright lines. The thing about taking a step or a half step back is that your oppoent is likely to fallow you putting you in perfect poistion to counter punch. Because boxers are tought not to do it going stright in can catch your oppoent by suprise. Leonard and Mayweather have taken advantage of this.
    Where moving in stright lines becomes dangures is when you keep doing it espicaly going backwards.
     
  12. Swarmer

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    You know i really don't care much for actually trying to address whatever yo're saying here but let me just say that many a time I've seen Mayweather look boring, by the books, fundamentally sound but essentially nothing special.

    whatever you seem to crying about would probably apply better to Leonard versus an exciting or unorthodox fighter instead of a minimalist like Mayweather.
     
  13. ripcity

    ripcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think that anyone who thinks this is going to be an easy fight is underestamating the other guy.
     
  14. Kalasinn

    Kalasinn ♧ OG Kally ♤ Full Member

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    :lol::rofl:lol::rofl:lol::patsch