The HW division: What has changed?

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  1. Bubby

    Bubby Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Is the heavyweight division actually weaker today than in the past?
    Or is it just a myth?

    For fifty years (30's to the late 80s) America controled the division, making up mostly 50% of the top ten heavyweights in the rankings at any given time.

    The other half, made up of various fighters from around the world (minus Eastern Europe and Cuba).

    Now, let's look at the rankings today minus EasternEurope and Cuba.

    #1 Eddie Chambers..USA.
    #2 Tony Thompson..USA.
    #3 David Haye........UK...
    #4 Chris Arreola......USA.
    #5 Marurice Harris...USA.
    #6 Jonathon Banks..USA
    #7 Jean M Mormeck..FRA.
    #8 Cedric Boswell....USA.
    #9 David Tua..........NZ.
    #10 Tyson Fury......UK.

    As you can see, if not for fighters from the east, Americans would still be "Top Dog" in the Division.
    The only thing that has changed is now boxing is far more international.:hi:
     
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  2. canis-lupus

    canis-lupus Guest

    I think Haye is best heavyweights on that list, but very truth what you sayed
     
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  3. theboss

    theboss Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Your upsetting the apple cart there pal .:yep
     
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  4. The_President

    The_President Boxing Addict banned

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    What has changed in America is there are many potential boxers sitting in jails all across the country.
    What has changed in America?

    The USA, the land of the free, has more people sitting in jail on bogus charges than Russia, China, Cuba, England, and Europe combined.

    In the case of African Americans, they are political prisoners.
     
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  5. Ak47

    Ak47 Active Member Full Member

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    not every good boxer has to be a sociopath but i see your point
     
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  6. canis-lupus

    canis-lupus Guest

    Sounds a bit strange
     
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  7. Gentoo

    Gentoo #1 PIZZA BAKER Full Member

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    Are you saying that the justice system in the US is worse than that of England, Russia, China and Cuba?:huh
     
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  8. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    no it isn't necessarily that much weaker. it just followed a golden age of the 90's is all. it stacks up well against era's ruled by holmes, johnson, dempsey etc
     
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  9. PowerHoock

    PowerHoock Well-Known Member Full Member

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    i get the african american part, but there are about 260 million other people in the US. AAs arent the only ones who can fight
     
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  10. theboss

    theboss Well-Known Member Full Member

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    :smoke Bull**** . There were to wars in the last century which wiped out a couple of gererations in EUROPE . What do you say about that .
     
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  11. kk17

    kk17 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Where is Helenuis ?? he isn't from EasternEurope
     
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  12. PowerHoock

    PowerHoock Well-Known Member Full Member

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    weren't the 70s the golden age?
     
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  13. theboss

    theboss Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I see we are getting closer to agreeing on something .
     
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  14. Dbear

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    Most big American athletes go and play American football or basketball I guess
     
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  15. theboss

    theboss Well-Known Member Full Member

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    There were some GOLDEN fights but it was no golden age .
     
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