Vitali Klitschko vs. Ken Norton

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  1. Undisputed520

    Undisputed520 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Vitali would ****ing CRUSH him... are you guys serious?
     
  2. theboss

    theboss Well-Known Member Full Member

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    :lol:The only thing exposed was your stupidity ! :good
     
  3. theboss

    theboss Well-Known Member Full Member

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    :smoke VITALY could never compete with the GODS from the 70s . I mean you only need a tough fight with ALI or get retired after being dropped and beat by JIMMY YOUNG to be an ALL TIME GREAT if your from the 70s !:hey If you fight today you need to hold the title for at least 10 years and 25 defences . Only then will your resume be the equivilent of beating NORTON and JOE KING ROMAN after holding the title for a year .:deal Or actually having a fight with ALI .:deal these guys are bizzar .:rasta
     
  4. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace

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    No, wlad has a superior resume to norton. Isn't as top heavy but it's much deeper. However, vitali doesn't.
     
  5. Bubby

    Bubby Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    But really, most boxing fans dont know no better.
    If the amercian sports writers say Garcia was great, most fans believe it, even tho he was 40/50 pounds overweight, knocked out in one or two rounds by super bums and never beat anybody outside of Norton. It's actually funny!
     
  6. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace

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    Still not a list of 7 that can better norton's top 7?
     
  7. Bubby

    Bubby Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You really think you have somthing with your "silly seven" list dont you?? Ok, I'll bit.

    You posted Ali twice, well Lennox Lewis is comparable too Ali.
    Vitali was beating Lewis before the cut and Lewis ducked a rematch.
    So thats two fights the ATG Lewis couldn't beat Vitali.

    As for Young, Gomez was proven as good as Jimmy ever was.

    Quarry was just a shadow of what he was. And I think (I may be wrong)
    Norton was his last fight before he retired the first time.
    So Shannon Briggs would be very comparable to Quarry.

    And like I said, Too even hold up Garcia as a good win is a joke!
    I really cant think of anybody Vitali fought that was as bad as him.

    Zanon I don't believe he ever beat a named fighter his whole career.
    So any one of Vitali's opponenets would beat a record like that.

    Bobick? Don't know much about him outside of him being an overhyped "White hope"........
     
  8. mrvooh

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    Tough one to call:?
     
  9. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace

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    so you're list is

    lewis
    lewis
    gomez
    briggs
    noone
    anyone
    don't know

    so in conclusion you believe that being stopped off lewis is vitali's best victory, lewis retiring is vitali's second best victory, gomez is vitali's 3rd, briggs is vitali's 4th and after that you struggle for names?

    i'll just reming you that norton beat ali either side of stoppage victories over foreman and frazier. lewis stopped vitali in his last ever fight.
     
  10. Bubby

    Bubby Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No! I'm just comparing opponents of two who I think are equal because Vitali has fought better competition......
     
  11. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace

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    these so called viatli fans in theboss and bubby have failed miserbaly at addressing the issue so I'll attempt to answer it for them.

    IMO vitali's best 7 victories are:

    peter
    sanders
    kirk johnson
    arreloa
    donald
    solis
    hide

    if we are to include his impressive losing effort's to byrd and lewis then I'd also include norton's impressive losing efforts to ali (2nd fight) and holmes.

    so then we have a resume of a top 9, looking like

    vitali: lewis (lost tko), byrd (lost tko), peter, sanders, kirk johnson, arreola, donald, solis, hide

    against

    norton: ali, ali, ali (lost points), holmes (lost points), young, quarry, garcia, zanon, bobick.


    it genuinely isn't even close. norton is clearly superior resume wise.

    now that that's over let's go back to the op.

    50/50, neither have the tools that defeated the other (norton lost to an atg jab or brutal power, vitali lost to a freak injury and a great boxer puncher), neither have come across the other styles (norton has never faced a 6'5 volume puncher, vitali ha never faced a crab like cross defence who slips, goes to the body and lands wild overhand rights).

    this would be a great fight, norton has proved he can go 15 rounds, but he has also been known to take rounds off. vitali has generally dominated until his shoulder tore or he came up against lewis. the style clash would be brilliant. norton would land that right hand imo, but i think vitali's volume would trouble norton. can't picke a winner, so i go for the guy who twice beat ali.
     
  12. BlackWall

    BlackWall Well-Known Member Full Member

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    norton is a good boxer, but vitali is too much for him! too big, too skillfull, too smart.
     
  13. Bubby

    Bubby Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    In your dream world! I like the way you give Norton credit for losing to Ali and Holmes, but not Vitali for clearly beating Lewis and running him out of boxing..:lol:
     
  14. lufcrazy

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    Did you not read the post? I gave vitali credit for his performances against lewis and byrd.

    No, in my dream world vitali never gets injured in 04. You see I rate vitali much much higher than you do, I just recognise his resume doesn't live up to the immense potential he showed.
     
  15. Bubby

    Bubby Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wrong!:lol:
    You posted Vitali's best wins as Peter, Sanders, K. Johnson, Arreola, Donald, Solis and Hide. Leaving out Lewis and Byrd even tho you put a Norton loss to Ali on his bast fights. You're clearly trying to help Norton's resume over Vitalis.:asskiss