how did u score mares-agbeko?

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  1. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

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    Through 10: 95-94 for Agbeko (six rounds to four; KD for Mares)

    From there... ??

    Score it 10-9 for Agbeko, and he enters the twelfth with a 105-103 edge and therefore can't possibly have lost (115-112 if you give him the 12th; 114-113 if you give it to Mares).

    Score it 10-8 for Agbeko (had Mora deducted a point from Mares) - which would have been perfectly acceptable with that blatant low blow after several warnings - and he enters the twelfth with an even wider margin at 105-102.

    Score it the traditionally "mandatory" 10-8 for Mares with Mora ruling a knockdown against Agbeko, and Mares is up 104-103 heading into the twelfth and therefore can't have possibly lost (114-112 for Mares or a 113-113 draw depending on the 12th round).

    The 12th round was very close and I didn't even bother scoring it while still seething in fresh rage from Mora's actions in the 11th. It doesn't matter anyway. The 11th determined everything.
     
  2. big_AL

    big_AL P4P #1 Full Member

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    yes but a kd round doesn't have to be 10-8,it can even be scored as 10-9 for the fighter that got knocked down

    agbeko can't get 10 because of the 'knockdown'

    however he also won the round,hence 9-9
     
  3. buckdacious

    buckdacious Sin~City punks!!! Full Member

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    i think your right, I wonder why my card was off by a point. So I had 114-113 Agbeko with a 10-9 round for Mares in the 11th
     
  4. nervousxtian

    nervousxtian Trolljegeren Full Member

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    Yup, but you score the round 10-9, then -1 for the fighter penalized.. but the round technically is still scored 10-9.

    It's a 10 point must system.. not the the score however the **** I want system.
     
  5. Stan

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    I was always under the assumption that no matter who dominated a round, if the ref calls a knockdown the boxer on the receiving ends gets a 10-8 round against their favor. Seems some judges score differently than others (10-9)
     
  6. haworths623

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    Someone doesn't know the rules. :patsch
     
  7. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

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    You've never heard of a round being so one-sided in Fighter A's favor that despite him getting knocked down, Fighter B doesn't get the 10-8?

    It's just a question of how to score it to reflect that Fighter A won the round but got knocked down (or at least ruled so). There seems to be a lot of contention regarding this.
     
  8. Stan

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    yes ive seen exceptions but it seems to be the judges discretion.
     
  9. Sean Juan

    Sean Juan Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No, you have to score it 10-9 for someone unless theres a point deduction. A 9-9 can only occur if the ref penalizes a fighter for a foul.
     
  10. RightCross

    RightCross Grandmaster of Boxing Full Member

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    I scored it 115-111 My card was up b4 the official judges on IB's rbr thread. Of course I am always right so the official score was correct based on how the ref called it.
     
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  12. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

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    Bingo. :good

    This is my understanding too.

    The concept of "ten point must" overrides anything to do with knockdowns (but is superseded by point deductions from fouls).

    So if there's a knockdown, someone still has to get ten points.

    If Fighter B scores the knockdown in a close round, or was winning anyway - it's 10-8 for Fighter B.

    If Fighter B scores the knockdown but was clearly losing two and a half minutes of the round (with Fighter A dominating him before/after the KD) - it's 10-9 for Fighter B.

    I guess in some extremely rare cases, if Fighter B was getting absolutely brutalized and was on the verge of getting KTFO for most of the round (so that it would have been almost a 10-8 for Fighter A without any knockdowns) but he scores a flash KD of Fighter A - it's 10-10.




    With deductions for fouls it is completely different, and "ten point must" goes out the window.

    If Fighter A wins the round but has a point taken for intentional low blows/headbutts/elbows/spitting his mouthpiece/whatever - it's 9-9.

    If Fighter A wins the round and scores a knockdown but has a point taken for intentional low blows/headbutts/elbows/spitting his mouthpiece/whatever - it's 9-8 for Fighter A.
     
  13. Hozumi's Hook

    Hozumi's Hook WHO NECKS!?!? Full Member

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    Not really, you gave round 2 to Mares, pretty bad decision there.
     
  14. Sean Juan

    Sean Juan Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Thats the actual ABC rule.

    No need to feel bad, for people who don't know that. I've found that a lot of people who know a lot about boxing don't really understand the scoring as well as they think.
     
  15. Diggersan

    Diggersan Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I didnt score it yet, I like to just absorb a fight first time I watch it. I was riveted it was an exciting for except for the low blows. The sad part is mares had it in the bag and on the up and up.