Outside of the low blows and the ref, did Mares win that fight?

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  1. RingKing

    RingKing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Vote and discuss.
     
  2. Hozumi's Hook

    Hozumi's Hook WHO NECKS!?!? Full Member

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    I consider myself a pretty objective scorer (ignore the avatar, simply showing my support for this bout), here is my scorecard:

    Agebko-Mares

    8-10 (knockdown - actually a slip )
    10-9
    9-10
    10-9
    10-9 (very close)
    9-10 (very close)
    9-10 (very close)
    10-9 (very close)
    10-9
    10-9
    9-10 (Mares credited with a knockdown (low-blow), but clearly lost round - 9-10 due to this)
    10-9

    114-113 Agbeko

    Notes: 30 low blows by Mares

    Now the scorecard without the shite ref:

    Agebko-Mares

    9-10
    10-9
    9-10
    10-9
    10-9 (very close)
    9-10 (very close)
    9-10 (very close)
    10-9 (very close)
    10-9
    10-9
    10-9
    10-9

    116-112 Agbeko

    I can see it being a bit closer, but a clear win for Agbeko without the referee.
     
  3. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    No.

    Without any deductions he should have lost (or Agbeko retained with a draw).

    With the appropriate points deductions there is no possible way for him to have won enough rounds to take it.
     
  4. christo

    christo Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    No. I gave to 11th to mares 10-9 because i thought he really
    won the round, but i scored the fight to agbeko 114-113. I
    wrote down every round, and never penalized mares when mora should
    have been. I thought agbeko hurt mares several times with the right
    and landed that jab solidly. Mares body work was terrible so it didn't
    count. With a credible ref, who by the way wouldn't have called the
    KD in the 1st, agbeko would've won handily. He's the better fighter clearly. In a rematch on non mexican grounds with a white ref, agbeko
    stops mares.
     
  5. osirus0830

    osirus0830 Active Member Full Member

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    TS,

    are you serious or trollin?
     
  6. Diggersan

    Diggersan Boxing Addict Full Member

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    you can't even score this fight at all, it becomes an unfair moot point with this many low blows. It undoubtably changed the outcome which in turn changed the scoring and not just in round eleven. I'm talking about all the low blows before that.
     
  7. RingKing

    RingKing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I didn't get to watch the fight and won't be able to for about three more weeks, unless of course it is uploaded onto Youtube. Just trying to get everyone's opinion on it. I did read IB's RBR, though. Seemed as if there was more of an outcry because of the ref and him not counting the low blows. No one claimed that Mares was not scoring or anything like that.
     
  8. Flatlander

    Flatlander Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Mares won but it is a tainted victory.
     
  9. RingKing

    RingKing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    So is the hate directed towards Mares or GBP and Mora? Or is it all three?
     
  10. Hozumi's Hook

    Hozumi's Hook WHO NECKS!?!? Full Member

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    Mora
    GBP
    Mares

    In that order.

    Mora for taking the bribe, GBP for offering the bride and Mares for not being able to keep his punches up and making a ****** excuse at the end.
     
  11. ocelot

    ocelot Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Agbeko looked like **** from the get go, but how can anyone say how the fight would have developed when he got fouled multiple times each round. Honestly, nice a guy as Mares seems, he should have been DQ'd.
     
  12. Hozumi's Hook

    Hozumi's Hook WHO NECKS!?!? Full Member

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    Ye he looked crap in round 1, but that was the only round he looked bad in. :patsch
     
  13. the cobra

    the cobra Awesomeizationism! Full Member

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    The low blows were flowing from the opening round. I didn't bother to score the fight, but it's impossible to say just how badly the blows affected Agbeko's performance. It's the reason why an immediate rematch is an absolute must.
     
  14. ocelot

    ocelot Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No, he looked bad a lot, plodded most of the fight, swung wildly, couldn't connect an overhand right to save his life. But he was fouled terribly. Mares should have been DQ'd. :good
     
  15. Hozumi's Hook

    Hozumi's Hook WHO NECKS!?!? Full Member

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    Not how I saw it. Had Agbeko winning more rounds WITH and WITHOUT the awful reffing.