Controversial statements on boxing that you stand by...

Nipper I like you mate but if you're willing to give Tibbs a pass for not knowing the state of Mitchell and his goings on outside of the gym (with his Missus, moving out etc etc) but you're happy to criticise Arnie for not knowing of Gavin's so called 'lack of dedication' then I refuse to debate the matter with you.

Also Gavin look blistering up to and including his dismantlement of Lomax. He's looked flat in TWO performances thus far, one of which he was I'll in the build up too.

And Mitchell had looked poor previous to Katsidis....... (apart from the Prescott fight). He was looking **** fighting a 6 o'clock bottom of the bill against hopeless fighters. You should watch the johannason fight again too pal. Mitchell was SECONDS away from being pulled out of that fight.

Gallagher has never gotten criticism on here for his fighters, moreso his arrogance and self important attitude.

 

Macklin was looking utter dogshite previous to his one good effort against
Sturm. Have you watched any of his fights previous to that one atsch

His punditry is better now because Joe's made him understand the game atschatsch

You're off your pissing nut Nipper :good

 

i think its fair to say Arnie is still unproven :think

this game is to easy to dig at someone after a bad performance, if Gavin shines in his next fight every1 will be kissing his arse again :yep

just how it is :deal

 

Fair point.

Nobody was calling for Arnie's head when Gavin dismantled (an arguably better fighter than both Mutley and Woodhouse) Lomax. :good

 

nope, was at that fight and thought Gavin look class, was 2 steps ahead of Lomex the whole fight

 

As far as I am concerned, Mitchell was teh downfall of himself against Katsidis. He wouldn't even answer the door or phone to anyone ffs :-(
Mitchell showed heart against Johansenn cos he was hurt but got it together and pulled off a stoppage, proper win was that against a live opponent.

Oh an wasn't Lomax a lateish replacement? never really rated him either as he has always lost to the better fighters i.e pryce, watson, brook. Frank did look good in that fight mate, I wont deny that.

But after the Kelly fight he should of stayed at 140 and not moved up. He seem's to have taken alot of stock out of that fight against Lomax and think he can mix it at 147, he cant :good as simple as that. He needs to drop down.

 

Hey pal I would love him to keep at 140 for sure. Lomax was a late replacement pal, you're right, but he was supposed to be fighting Purdy THAT night on the Watson/O'Donnell card which was also in London. So no fitness/weight excuses for that one:good

 

Macklin was fighting in tread-water fights against opponents he gave too much respect too as he knew he had alot to lose. The first time he did fight for summat he 'won' and Sturm is levels above his previous opponents.

His punditry was merely an example of how his boxing knowledge has evolved. He understands the game alot more nowadays and knows how to break styles down and work to strengths, he was never that way before he was with Joe.

I know cos I know him via a mutual friend and spoke with him a few times now, he has changed a fair bit trust me mate, its mad to say its down to Joe. But the point i am making is that he seems more knowledgeable as of late (12 months). If you meet him and have a chat you will see what I mean.

 

No the point I am making is that Lomax was never all that, and Gavin seems to have taken alot out of that fightr in regards to thinking he is capable of mixing at 147 when in reality he struggles to do so (against very average opposition as you would agree i am sure).

 

Nah I disagree I dont think he struggled at all. I think he should have gotten Woodhouse out of there, that's probably the worst I have to say on the two fights if I'm honest.

 

Dan i gotta go now, but need to state this clearly.

Woodhouse is a gatekeeper type fighter and Mutley a journeyman with no chin. Frankie should be schooling these fighters if he is the real deal.

He had no business at the weight mate and you know it. Gavin even criticised Palmer and said he was 'just growing' and 'shouldn;t have to struggle to make weight' yet all of a sudden he is dropping weight :think

Somewhat of a contradiction woudl you agree?

 

I think he's fine at 147 if I'm being honest.

People are going overboard about the weight and placing too much emphasis on that.

The fact was that he was ****ing **** against Mutley - despite being ill and the opponent being negative. Woodhouse.... he should have stopped him, but the performance wasn't that bad. I think people ought to look at Woodhouse and give him a lot of credit for his effort during that fight.

Every time I'd seen him on TV I'd been impressed with him, from his debut to bashing up and eventually stopping Stefy Bull.

Most British fighters have had some lacklustre showings - the difference is that the likes of Hatton and Calzaghe were far more active. Being taken the distance or looking sloppy didn't really matter as you'd be in the ring within a matter of a few short weeks.

This lot have so much pressure on them and so few opportunities to impress.

 

Degale has impressed no? he only just go beat by Groves and progressed way faster than Gavin has. No flirtations with 175 weightclass either.

 

1. You could argue DeGale looks 'fleshy' at 168 could you not?
2. ****** provided far better fights for DeGale than he has done thus far for Gavin

 

The one that gets a few people going:

I had no issue with the Lewis/Holyfield drawn fight...

Although Lewis was linear champ going in, the general feeling amongst the public was Holyfield was the more legitimate champion, and as the fight was also in the States, it was important for Lewis to take the fight to Holyfield and to win, rather than not lose.

I felt Lewis had the better of the fight and I had him winning 7-5, but he was too cautious, he gave Holyfield too much respect, and merely did just enough to win a fight on neutral ground. But as the fight was in Holyfield's Country, a draw was to be expected.