The HW division: What has changed?

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  1. Ncc84

    Ncc84 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I think what has changed is the size of the opponents now, the most dominant hws recently have been 6'5"+ and 240lbs, I think america has only really produced one exceptional boxer this size, riddick bowe.
     
  2. JASPER

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    your list proves my point a useless lot! Man, top 50 cab you name 50 fulltime fighters today? the 23-4 "boxers" (a term i use lightly) all of which would eat up and spit out in anytime frame . . . skilless and/or talentless bums (except for the bros and Adamek . . . who has great potential)

    Jack johnson era ****? with Johnson and Langford alone more double the skill and talent of the top 10 of this garbage era!
     
  3. Bubby

    Bubby Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He posts "FACTS"
    and you come back with just your opinion......Big difference!:hi:
     
  4. Ncc84

    Ncc84 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    are you actually suggesting a 5'6" 185lb boxer who started boxing at lightweight from 100 years ago would be capable of beating a top modern heavyweight?
     
  5. JASPER

    JASPER Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Fact is that the Johnson era was not that bad . . . two ATG (real ATG) in the same era! cannot be that weak
     
  6. JASPER

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    No I am saying he was an ATG and has more skill and Talent than these bums.
     
  7. Ncc84

    Ncc84 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    So you agree he would lose?
     
  8. JASPER

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    hell I make a list of names of todays heavyweights too . . . that doesnt mean that they are any good . . .lol
     
  9. JASPER

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    no I am saying he would **** more talent out by noon than these current crop of heavies
     
  10. Ncc84

    Ncc84 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    do you think he would win or lose?
     
  11. JASPER

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    DO you think any of these guys will come close to his status as an ATG?
     
  12. Ncc84

    Ncc84 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    the klitschkos will, sam langford is an ATG but only because he was boxing in a time when heavyweights were a lot worse than they are now.
    Do you think sam langford would beat the top heavyweights of today?
     
  13. Manning

    Manning Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Johnsons technique was abysmal, if he fought for a title today no doubt 90% of this board would call him one of the worst title challengers ever.

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPXB9OLrAnA&feature=related[/ame]


    Even here against a semi pro farmer he looks like ****, and people think that was a golden era?

    :rofl


    Here is his biggest montage video out there.

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrVyrSimXYs[/ame]

    Imagine the abuse someone like even Haye would get for fighting someone this poor, nevermind a title holder.
     
  14. JASPER

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    if you really think that is true, there is no sense in talking to you because you do not know **** about boxing! Sam is rank by many as top 5 ATG and you think the bros will reach that status . . . . hahahahaha
     
  15. JASPER

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    HAHAHAH, JJ was known to be one of the great defensive fighters of all time and one of te best technitions ever . . . Manning get the **** out of here with you BS! its impossible to tell from those crappy grainy videos.

    what is crystal clear is "the man" of this era can dominate with a basic 1-2 . . . pathetic.