Bute has NO excusses this time.

These "bums" who bute beat gave people like froch a pretty hard time. :think

 

You only want to make stupid Troll comments... STFU

 

Here are 5 fighters he could mix it up with before tackling the Ward-Froch winner to prove his metal

1. Andre Dirrell
2. Mikkel Kessler
3. Kelly Pavlik
4. Peter Quillin
5. Glen Johnson

Personally the only ones I see him beating are Pavlik and Johnson mostly because their best days are behind them. Dirrell may be too slick for him, Kessler has more big match experience and Quillin is gonna be a force to be reckoned with.

 

1. Andre Dirrell - need a comeback fight
2. Mikkel Kessler - Fighting Stieglitz next
3. Kelly Pavlik - Pull out
4. Peter Quillin -Already said he won't move to 168lbs
5. Glen Johnson - I-Box need to sign him as soon as possible

 

Maybe Kessler vs Bute is still a possibility... Hope so!

 

This is the fight i want to see , with Kessler were talking about a top 3!

 

Which god should I pray?

 

Kessler vs. Bute in Denmark, please.

Interbox sucks though, it'll probably be Bute vs. Sugar Boy Malinga in Montreal.

 

Bute and Kessler want to fight. The fans want the fight.

Sauerland and Interbox should make it happen. If not next then the fight after.

 

just tried them all, but i will guess the viking pantheon!

 

Boo you'll probably disagree with most of what I'm about to write(though I'm not standing on Bute's teams side).

I really think Kelly got a pretty fair deal. If I remember correctly, the deasl was a 60/40 split. I know Kelly earned 3 million for fighting Hopkins, made 2.5mil for fighting Lockett and made more money fighting Rubio. However, there are number of things to consider.

Kelly isn't an HBO fighter anymore. HBO can back a lot of big money fights that Showtime can't. They throw(or threw, we'll see how the new regime works) millions at Berto, Bradley, Alexander, etc without thinking too much about it. Back about 4 years ago Kelly had ridden a big wave of momentum knocking out Miranda and then Taylor, and then outboxing Taylor over 12 rounds and all of the fights were entertaining. HBO threw tons of money at Kelly and were expecting the next PPV star...it didn't happen.

In reality Kelly Pavlik just had a nice year and a half run dating back to January 2007. And you can't ride that out forever. In October 2008 he was destroyed by Bernard Hopkins and his rep took a big hit. Since then he has fought 4 times. His opponents have been Marco Antonio Rubio, Miguel Espino, Sergio Martinez, and Alfonso Lopez. Outside of Sergio Martinez it's not an overwhelming list (mainly because the MW division sucks) but I think having a couple of those mismatches put on PPV instead of regular HBO didn't help him. Furthermore, over the years he's developed a reputation of being unreliable and has battled alcohol problems.

In short, I think the 1.35mil guaranteed on the Showtime network for Kelly Pavlik was a pretty fair payday. The 750K for Kessler...I'm not so sure of, it's great that he would get 100% of the Danish TV rights but that would have been at like 3 to 4 in the morning. But it's pretty shocking when you can't cut a deal with Glen Johnson.

 

Don't misinterpret me. I absolutely was not defending Pavlik's actions. I was only trying to look at the situation from his perspective. Bute and his team offered him less than he made for Rubio. That fight sold around 7200 tickets, and it was an easy fight. Bute/Pavlik would sell around 20,000, and would be a really difficult fight after a 5 week camp. That was Pavlik's number one bitching point.

Personally I think Pavlik should have gone forward with the Cunningham fight, and then took a new look at the Bute offer. Currently he is not in a position to demand anything from anybody. He needs to prove he is still capable of being the fighter that ran over Miranda, and beat JT twice. I don't think he is capable. In my opinion he totally squandered is peak years, and will never fight again.

The offer to Pavlik looked more than fair to us, but it is easy to see how Pavlik might think differently. The offers to Kessler and Johnson don't look fair to anyone in their right mind. We now know that low ball offers are an ongoing problem with Team Bute, and may very well be the real reason he does not secure big fights. That was the main point of my other post.

 

Lucy wants none of Kessler

 

Actually, I agree with your entire post. (Read my last post above.)

 

I understand what you say about Pavlik's point of view. About Kessler though, all we have is a sn anonymus source saying he was offered 750K + money from Showtime (we don't how much, plus the PPV money in Denmark. Even at 4am, Kessler sells well in his home country. The total was not so small, if that's true. Interbox has never spoken publicly about that bute that was their first offer. You said in a previous post that Interbox offered 1M$ to Pavlik first and he got 1,35 M$ after negociations. Well, Kessler could have got more than the initial offer too, but Sauerland had taken another road even bofore receiving the offer. He managed to put Kessler mandatory after a fight against the number 5 of the WBO. I repeat that he had not received the offer at that moment.

As for johnson, the offer, if true, was ridiculous.